these DNA roadblocks are nothing more than tests to see how docile and submissive to authority the American population has become.
Posted on 12/17/2013 10:36:21 AM PST by Mount Athos
A private firm with a federal contract - and backed up by city police - forced motorists off Laurel Street and into a private parking lot Friday to question them about their driving habits and ask for a swab of their mouth.
"I feel this incident is a gross abuse of power on many levels," Reading resident Ricardo Nieves, one of those stopped, told City Council Monday.
He said federal and local tax dollars were being used to stop innocent people without probable cause, and allow a private company to hire uniformed police to force citizens to listen to their questions.
He said he wasn't told what the swab was for, but added, "Clearly it was for DNA."
The checkpoint was among several being carried out in Pennsylvania by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, hired by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
City Police Chief William M. Heim said the two federal agencies are trying to see what can be done about crashes and injuries, and the swabs were not to get DNA samples but to test for the presence of prescription drugs.
The checkpoint was supposed to be voluntary, but Nieves said he had to refuse several times over a five-minute period before the woman taking the survey let him go.
What irked Nieves was the presence of city police. He said they were there - including a police car with flashing lights - to intimidate motorists, and gave the checkpoint an air of authority it would not otherwise have had.
"A federal survey with local police help violates my rights," Nieves said.
Heim said city police were hired for site security only, since the survey takers were paying money for answers and for the swabs.
But he said city police did not pull motorists over, nor ask any questions, and in fact were asked to stay away from the cars.
Asked about Nieves' statement that the private firm wanted police there for intimidation, Heim responded: "People are not pressured by police presence to do something they don't want to.
"In the grand scheme of things, I think it's a pretty innocuous and minor issue."
Heim said checkpoints are fairly common - for seat belt use, drunken driving, truck safety regulations - and all result in minor inconvenience.
However, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania said those checkpoints are legal only to protect public safety.
"A car driver or passenger cannot be required or pressured into providing a DNA sample and, in fact, can't be stopped at all except on suspicion of a crime or for a properly conducted sobriety checkpoint," Mary Catherine Roper, senior staff attorney for the ACLU of Pennsylvania, told the Reading Eagle Monday.
The checkpoint was part of a $7.9 million, three-year survey by the agencies, which has been conducted several times since the 1970s.
The surveys have gained more scrutiny this year because the Obama administration has been heavily criticized over revelations that U.S. spy agencies are tracking phone and Internet traffic, CNN reported in June.
Susan Watson, executive director of the Alabama chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, told CNN that Alabama's use of deputies to conduct the survey was an abuse of power.
Mayor Vaughn D. Spencer said neither he nor Managing Director Carole B. Snyder were aware of it, and he needs to understand what role police played before making any comment on it.
Council members also were upset, and said if local police are there, it appears they are operating the checkpoint.
Councilman Dennis M. Sterner was livid that government can't pick up local drug dealers without a two-year investigation, but can stop motorists at random.
"Our rights are being violated more and more every day," he said. "It's another way of government intrusion into our lives."
Call 911 to report a kidnapping.
Excellent conglomeration of videos (the best ones start after 2 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8U4Qn6iIIg
“City Police Chief William M. Heim said the two federal agencies are trying to see what can be done about crashes and injuries, and the swabs were not to get DNA samples but to test for the presence of prescription drugs.”
What a moron this ‘chief’ is……No one he was willing to comply with the feds. A REAL officer would have declined
I’m a blood and marrow donor, my DNA is already knowable. Heck, bigheadfred even knows my tissue type (don’t ask!)
I no longer donate anything.
I decided I would never visit PA as long as Judge Martin (the clown who threw out the Muslim/atheist assault case last year) sits on the bench there. Now this. Seems like the rule of law is just a memory there.
I fully understand!
At least your lady-friend there seems to be smiling.
Did you fart?
lol
I had forgotten about that one. Foreigners who “don’t know” that we have freedom of religion here can’t be blamed for committing violence on people exercising freedom of religion...
And they want to make sure that lots of foreigners can sneak in and stay as long as they want...
Uh...once they have the swab, they have the dna.
Regardless of their stated purpose for taking it.
Not mentioned is whether they got your name, etc.
>>this is just a test run for the real “check points” to come.<<
Yep...you’re absolutely correct!
“What that? You want me to submit to medical testing on the side of the road? First allow me to get a medical device of my own. Is it a gun? No, not at all! It’s a medical device that effectively ventilates the brain pan of people who think they won’t face any consequences for violating my rights.”
Reading, PA is a very corrupt city. they once had a mayor who ran up huge gambling debts, and then sold the city’s snow plows, using the funds to pay his gambling debts.
these DNA roadblocks are nothing more than tests to see how docile and submissive to authority the American population has become.
I’ve been against road blocks since I was in my teens. In California they used to set them up to catch people with vehicle problems. They’d pull you over and check your blinkers...
Then they’d give you a fix-it ticket or worse.
Of course they were trolling for whatever they could get.
These things have always wreaked of Eastern Block tactics.
“ABUSE of public funds, public servants (police officers), public property (police cars), and power.”
... and in other News the NFL has decided that fans attending this year’s Superbowl at Giants Stadium will not be permitted to tailgate prior to the game. How are they going to enforce that private rule if not by ‘deputizing’ official law enforcement?
Seems like the local police are amenable to all kinds of chicanery.
So now we know these things are happening in PA and TX (so much for how superior TX is...).
I wonder where else these are?
I’d be in jail if they pulled this crap on me.
Talk about irate, this would be my last straw.
You want what? A swab? Tell ya what, you better get your @$$ away from my vehicle while you can still walk.
Oh, by the way Mr. badge and a gun, you had no right to pull me over for this $hit, you detain me any longer and your @$$ WILL be in court with me for unlawful detention.
Well...
I wouldn’t be surprised if intoxication checkpoints are in all 50 states.
Myself, I don’t care if someone has had a few, a long as they are maintaining and driving according to the rules of the road. Lowering the sobriety level to 0.0 is not the solution. Checkpoints are an infringement.
If someone is driving erratically, get them off the road. Otherwise leave the citizens alone.
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