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Driver Arrested in Ohio for Secret Car Compartment Full of Nothing
reason.com ^ | 11/21/2013 | Scott Shackford

Posted on 11/25/2013 5:08:12 AM PST by Orangedog

Norman Gurley, 30, is facing drug-related charges in Lorain County, Ohio, despite the fact that state troopers did not actually find any drugs in his possession.

Ohio passed a law in 2012 making it a felony to alter a vehicle to add a secret compartment with the “intent” of using it to conceal drugs for trafficking.

Gurley is the first actual person arrested under the law. WKYC in Northeast Ohio covered the arrest, with no notable journalistic skepticism whatsoever:

They pulled over the driver for speeding, but then troopers noticed several wires running to the back of the car.

Those wires then led them directly to a hidden compartment.

Around 5 p.m. on Tuesday state troopers made the arrest under the law, which is meant to combat criminals who modify the inside of their car, allowing them to store drugs or weapons inside secret compartments, which can often only be accessed electronically.

They just noticed some wires, did they? Just while in the process of handing Gurley a speeding ticket, they noticed the wires?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: leooutofcontrol; secretcompartment
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To: Orangedog

I used to have a 1973 Jeep Renegade with a hidden compartment under the driver’s seat. The only Jeep I have ever seen one on.


21 posted on 11/25/2013 5:49:51 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Venturer

That is nation wide. Under Rico laws all the cops have to have is a suspicion that the money MIGHT me related to drugs and they can and will take it.


22 posted on 11/25/2013 5:50:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: shelterguy
"I won’t say what I am thinking because they may be listening."

Too late, they aready know:)
23 posted on 11/25/2013 5:50:43 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Venturer

> Wasn’t it Louissianna where if you got stopped with a couple of thousand dollars in your pocket they took the money and said it was drug money?

Not just Louisiana but just about any department where corruption abounds. Funny how the “evidence” disappears on these cases.


24 posted on 11/25/2013 5:51:31 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Venturer
Wasn’t it Louissianna where if you got stopped with a couple of thousand dollars in your pocket they took the money and said it was drug money?

Don't know for sure but Florida does it all the time, they seem to favor highways that cross the peninsula east to west or vice versa.

Regards,
GtG

25 posted on 11/25/2013 5:51:51 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: FAA
So, if the spare tire well in the trunk is empty......am I violating the law in Ohio?

No. A spare tire is considered prepping (hoarding). You're good.

26 posted on 11/25/2013 5:53:49 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: Orangedog

I knew a twenty-something who drove a near comical wreck of an old Mazda. To add to the comedic value of his ride he affixed a Mercedes three-point star emblem to it. He got a ticket for altering the marque of the vehical. Apparently there is a law on the books in some states that makes it a crime to obscure the make of your car.

This is a police state, they just let you live here. Maybe.


27 posted on 11/25/2013 5:53:49 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: The Antiyuppie
If you could bring this story through a time machine to 1970, a reader of 1970 would assume that we had lost World War III to the communists.

This was a law signed by a Republican governor.

But hey......its all Obama's fault and if you don't vote for Jeb in 2016 you are a traitor. Right?

28 posted on 11/25/2013 6:07:00 AM PST by ClaytonP
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To: Orangedog; bamahead; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; ...

Ohio Ping
Norman Gurley, 30, is facing drug-related charges in Lorain County, Ohio, despite the fact that state troopers did not actually find any drugs in his possession.

Ohio passed a law in 2012 making it a felony to alter a vehicle to add a secret compartment with the “intent” of using it to conceal drugs for trafficking.

Gurley is the first actual person arrested under the law. WKYC in Northeast Ohio covered the arrest,


29 posted on 11/25/2013 6:11:03 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Venturer

There is a Parish (County) where they were using this technique to fund the annual budget. They would randomly stop (mostly out ot state vehicles) and confiscate money and bling...rarely finding any real contraband.


31 posted on 11/25/2013 6:14:35 AM PST by RouxStir (No peein' allowed in the gene pool.)
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To: Orangedog

Who thought the War on Drugs was a good idea?

Who thought the War on Drugs was winnable?


32 posted on 11/25/2013 6:20:16 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes.)
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To: FAA

What about the concealed gun safe I keep in my truck? Would that be considered illegal under this “law”?


33 posted on 11/25/2013 6:20:26 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: Orangedog

I would say understand this if a drug dog hit on the compartment...but other than that...ridiculous


34 posted on 11/25/2013 6:21:10 AM PST by bike800
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To: Orangedog

The cops need to get the arrest numbers up, so they arrest people who haven’t commited a crime. They’re usually normal people without a lot of money, and they can’t fight the charges, and there are no ‘civil rights’ lawyers waiting to help them out.


35 posted on 11/25/2013 6:23:16 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Orangedog

Well in my state the cops would do about 5 illegal anal probes and a surgery to discover no drugs.


36 posted on 11/25/2013 6:23:30 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Orangedog
Any cop can steal whatever money you have on you and call it drug money.

I don't normally carry more than about $20 at a time for a host of reasons. In any robbery or such, my wallet would be a diversion.

37 posted on 11/25/2013 6:24:30 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: SampleMan

Most relevant post of the thread.

However, you will anger the potheads if you do not agree that every government excess means drugs should be legalised.


38 posted on 11/25/2013 6:24:51 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: bike800

Cops can make a drug dog hit on anything they want.

About as reliable as a divining rod.


39 posted on 11/25/2013 6:24:58 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: jaydubya2
How do they know that “intent” was to use it to conceal drugs for trafficking?

They don't. And we're getting to the point where we can no longer assume contraband means drugs. It could be cigarettes, light bulbs, ammunition, or laundry detergent.

40 posted on 11/25/2013 6:28:14 AM PST by tacticalogic
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