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Posted on 11/14/2013 9:12:37 AM PST by aimhigh
Sitting in a wheelchair and shaking, Jerry Harryman was sentenced Wednesday to almost six years in prison for shooting a man who punched him during a Fred Meyer checkout line scuffle.
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Harryman, who did not testify at his trial, said he told Young that he was armed. It was a warning, not a threat, Harryman said. Young responded, "I don't give a (expletive). I'm gonna (expletive) you up," Harryman said.
Harryman said he had seconds to deal with an unprovoked attack.
(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...
You might have voted to convict? So beating some old man in a wheelchair is OK with you?
Perhaps he should have used a knife to slice his guts open. That way Young could have bled to death in the busy grocery store without any fear of anyone else being shot.
Dude wasn't wheelchair bound; he popped up from the chair during the slap fight, then pulled a gun and shot the chubby guy. Check out the vid.
I'm a gun nut myself, but this case is not the travesty that some seem to think it is.
so you would have convicted Zimmerman too, since it was only a fist fight. Closet liberal alert!!
Oregon is one of 2 US states that only requires 10 jurors to reach a verdict. In any other state it would have been a hung jury. Note to self, avoid Oregon.
Oregon, beautiful country, seriously F’ed up people!
Is that video the entire incident, from provocation through gunshot? If so, then I might have voted to convict, as well, as it appears it was a sissy-slap fight, not a beat-down worthy of lethal self-defense. Zimmerman/Martin it ain’t.
Plus you can carry a gun or be a douchebag but not both.
The shooter wasn't wheelchair bound he got out of it fairly fast.
Another thing about that video, no one appears to jump or duck at any point, as if in response to a gunshot. There’s also someone holding back the aggressor, and getting between him and the shooter before they separate. It’s simply the aggressor and the blocker going one way, and the “shooter” going his own way. I use the “ “ around shooter, because within the video, there doesn’t appear to be a gunshot. It’s not clear enough to see a handgun, either.
Read post 17, the person in the scooter was Mrs. Young, and she was trying to get away from the scuffle. Mr. Young and Harryman are both dressed in black, and are fighting behind her.
“So beating some old man in a wheelchair is OK with you?”
There were two old fat guys fighting. No, that is not just cause to kill someone - and anytime you shoot someone, you are taking the chance of killing them.
“so you would have convicted Zimmerman too, since it was only a fist fight. Closet liberal alert!!”
I strongly supported Zimmerman going free. THAT was a very different case. If he & Trayvon had been bitch-slapping each other in a crowded store, and he THEN shot and killed Trayvon, Zimmerman would be in jail.
A shoving match is not just cause to believe you are about to die or suffer grave bodily injury.
Federal Hydra-Shoks are the preferred round of a lot of OR law enforcement agencies.
“Harryman loaded his gun with hollow-point bullets, which are intended to inflict greater damage.”
Not sure of the source for this. Did the reporter add it in?
Hollow points do inflict greater damage on soft targets, but they are also far less likely to go through and hit someone or something else.
At that point, I would have drawn the Glock, finger on trigger, pointed at his center of mass.
The thug would decide if I put 4 1/2 pounds on the trigger or not.
Back off or attempt to punch me and die, simple as that.
In that situation, I don't have time to frisk him for any weapons, determine his state of mind, drug test him for crack, check his background, find out from his mama what a good boy he is.
All I know is he made a threat to do me bodily harm of considerable extent, is in the process of attacking and I will stop him.
I gather that’s part of the true story of what’s going on here.
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On the other side, you do have to wonder about anyone who is unarmed and yet will attack an armed person... but until there is a reasonable and immediate threat of lethal harm (note: rape counts as lethal harm in every state), you can NOT shoot someone.
In the Trayvon / Zimmerman case, his head was being repeatedly beaten against a concrete sidewalk, with no end in sight. THAT can be lethal. Some idiot saying "I'll fuck you up" with no weapons in his hands is not sufficient.
Then you're an utter moron, and you deserve the felony, as well as the confiscation of your firearms.
Firearms are to be used when a reasonable person would agree that there is an imminent threat of lethal harm. To draw on someone, with poor trigger discipline, is the absolute definition of reckless endangerment, as well as negligence for the civil suit. You will easily lose on both, as well as showing the Low information idiots that some gun owners are irresponsible dolts. Well done.
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