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GOP asked tech founder, ex-fugitive McAfee to diagnose Obamacare
NBC News Business ^ | 10/21/2013 | Jeff Pohlman and Dan Mangan

Posted on 10/22/2013 12:57:25 PM PDT by JediJones

"I promise you this cannot be fixed without at least scrapping the front-end processing, which is more than half of the systems," he said. "Seriously, if it were me and I were running this and I had been asleep in a hospital for two years and woke up to this mess, I would say OK, throw it out and start over. But start over in the right way."

HealthCare.gov wasn't too ambitious an idea...but the government has overpaid for it.

"It's not that it's an ambitious program — it's that it's an ambitious program considering the hallways that people have to march down in order to implement, and these hallways are the way you have to do things in the government, that are defined in these massive books of regulation or rules that you have to adhere to in order to compete in a government contract,"

McAfee was scornful of CGI Federal...

"It sounds a little bit absurd,"... "The Canadians are not well known for being high technologists compared to the Americans."

"You know we have a number of high-technology companies here in America," he said. "You know Silicon Valley has nothing but such entities that are competent, efficient and certainly more experienced than the Canadian companies...And so it would seem very strange for an American government to seek outside help in developing a complex system. And yet that's what they did. I don't know why, but it's bizarre."

"If you Google CGI, you'll find that they were in serious trouble with the Canadian government with health-care systems that were not delivered on time and were nonfunctional. So you would have thought that someone would have looked at that past history and said, 'I don't think that we can go with them.' I mean, I wouldn't have chosen them."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: health; mcafee; obama; obamacare
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To: MeshugeMikey

Wow. That ‘rally team behind 0bama’ photo is quite DAMNING, to include the fake fainting lady who did it on que!


21 posted on 10/22/2013 1:12:59 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: JediJones

Curious - does anyone know: Was the code (Obamaware) based on an ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) package, like SAP or Oracle, or did they actually try to try to re-invent the wheel and write this thing from scratch. If they actually tried to write it from scratch, it was one of the dumbest decisions in the history of government. Either that, or the more likely scenario is that they actually wanted it to fail. Did they bring in the heavyweight management consulting firms like KPMG, Pricewaterhouse Coopers, and Ernst & Young, like any large corporation would do? If so, what did those guys recommend (and has the press interviewed them)? We need some answers.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 1:14:28 PM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I would not be surprised that this company was chosen because of future NAFTA - North American Union nonsense.

Its also quite telling that the biggest Free Trade supporter groups are also leading the fight against the anti ObamaCare folks. In fact....Free Traders are the biggest supporters of Socialized Medicine....the EU is the prime example.

You can bet the folks pushing ObamaCare are the same folks who continue the Free Trade Communist nonsense. Neither have no record of working


23 posted on 10/22/2013 1:18:32 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: JediJones

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/10/snowden-offers-to-fix-health-insurance-marketplace.html

Snowden wants to rescue us...for immunity


24 posted on 10/22/2013 1:20:21 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: EGPWS

Obama donors, cronies, and campaign helpers.


25 posted on 10/22/2013 1:21:47 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: JediJones

The “news” media report this, but will they report it if McAfee proves that Obamacare is way overpriced in all aspects? Especially if he can prove it was all designed to hide the real costs from consumers.


26 posted on 10/22/2013 1:24:20 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: JediJones

As I understand it, this company also wrote the Canadian
gun registration program(which is being scrapped).
It’s no wonder they were chosen by Obama.


27 posted on 10/22/2013 1:24:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: shalom aleichem

From article: At the White House, President Obama offered a muted response to Mr. Snowden’s proposal: “Edward Snowden is a traitor who has compromised our national security. Having said that, if he knows why we keep getting those error messages, that could be a conversation.”

IOW,the turtle gives the snake a ride across the river and then complains when the snake bit him.


28 posted on 10/22/2013 1:24:54 PM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: privatedrive

Pretty sure I saw Oracle or someone defending their database which was involved in it at some level, but they insisted their portion was working properly. Which I don’t doubt is true.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 1:27:37 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones
"The Canadians are not well known for being high technologists compared to the Americans."

They have 1/10th the population and gave us Corel, NorthernTelcom and RIM/Blackberry. It is true that there is a bit of a brain drain to the south (U.S.). That may slow down now, thanks to Obamacare.
30 posted on 10/22/2013 1:29:00 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: MrB

And the other 95% to 0bama and the Wookie.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 1:29:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: privatedrive
Was the code (Obamaware) based on an ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) package, like SAP or Oracle, or did they actually try to try to re-invent the wheel and write this thing from scratch.

ERP probably wouldn't be directly applicable here since this project hinged on creating two big databases from scratch(users, insurers) and the intersection of the two. The only user interface (as opposed to loads of ERP modules) is the much-maligned web site as opposed to a variety of modules.

It's possible, but not probable, that an Oracle database was used but the more likely scenario is a Linux/Unix platform and an open-source database.

A quick Google yields this: http://goo.gl/CS8pv2

They weren't trying to reinvent the wheel since the tools they used are, in most cases, common to this type of project, contractor, etc.

In one of those delicious ironies, ego and ideology prevented Obama's regime from seeking help from the experts you cite. The Big Five firms and their many smaller competitors are viewed as evil for-profit corporations. In addition, Obama probably refused to share the credit with anyone so they went for an obscure foreign firm that already had socialist credentials via their past projects for the Canadian government.

As for the actual end product, it's been documented that the developers/designers/programmers took a 'Lego' approach by snapping a bunch of near-random blocks together, creating huge, redundant, and/or slow combinations of processes, procedures, etc. This wasn't reusable code so much as it was reused code.

In short, they applied one Band-Aid after another. When the site launched they already had a mile-high stack of Band-Aids....the so-called fixes they are touting are just more of the same.

32 posted on 10/22/2013 1:30:30 PM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: JediJones

My understanding is that an American subsidiary of CGI designed and wrote the code. Of course they could have copied a lot of code already written from the Canadian boondoggle. Or maybe some Patriots working the project deliberately left some time bombs behind. I can dream.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 1:32:03 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: shalom aleichem; patriotsoul

I’m pretty sure you both saw that was in the ‘humor’ section, right?


34 posted on 10/22/2013 1:39:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Regulator

Well McAfee used to work for NASA so he knows how the govt ticks. He said that they have so many regs controlling the development of software it would take 3 years to write the program if you follow the govt guidelines and state of the art in software changes every 6 mos or so. I’m sure he’s right

I think we can all prolly just sit back and watch it crumble. Its doomed. Thank God.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 1:39:18 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Black Agnes

no. hoax’s are not well labeled anymore. Helps the shock value. Lies are easy.


36 posted on 10/22/2013 1:40:47 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Viennacon

They also don’t mention that he is a “fugitive” from the government of Belize. Seems they broke into his house in the middle of the night and arrested him for supposedly manufacturing drugs. Then they dropped all charges. Now they say he is a “person of interest” in the murder of a neighbor who was shot dead in his own home. McAfee says they want to get him back to kill him, they say he is paranoid.

I’d be “paranoid” too.


37 posted on 10/22/2013 1:56:43 PM PDT by Hugin
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