Not likely, it would probably only receive a severe scolding. But if it did it again, it would probably be tranquilized, caged and driven 50 miles away and released and forever prohibited from being a scout leader.
Posted on 10/19/2013 8:26:20 AM PDT by BeadCounter
A group of Boy Scouts leaders may face criminal charges after purposely knocking over an ancient Utah desert rock formation and posting a video of the incident online, authorities say
The men were leading a group of 14 to 16-year-old Boy Scouts on a trip to Goblin Valley State Park when they said they noticed the top of the rock formation was loose and feared it was dangerous.
"This is about saving lives," Dave Hall, who shot the video, told The Associated Press on Friday. "One rock at a time."
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Did the Scouts lose God’s blessing when they caved to gay bullies?
So because of abortion thug behavior is fine...? I can’t even get my mind around that.
People get more excited and worked up about vandalism but yet these same people defend abortion.
Am I breaking it down enough for you?
Precisely why I make a point of drinking and driving, whenever I can. What's the point of an innocent bystander? The government sanctions the murder of thousands.
Give us a run down on how much "rock" a person is allowed to disturb in a state park without going to prison.
The mere act of walking on the ground disturbs small rocks. Is that a misdemeanor? How much rock must move and how far in order to charge a person with a felony?
Does the fact that no machine was used change anything?
I recall a case of a woman who was crushed in her car when a several ton rock fell onto a highway in the Tahoe Valley. I'm sure she would have preferred that a group of Boy Scouts had safely dislodged the rock prior to getting killed by it.
How many such rocks exist in the park in question? How many fall without any human aid each year? Is that an allowable consideration or must we criminalize any human "interference" in the workings of the world regardless of its actual consequences?
Had a bear knocked over this rock, would the bear be destroyed for its criminal act? Why is it that human actions are so seldom treated as unintentional and natural?
I'd like to know which university these guys got their degrees in geology from.
Let’s be real....Stop the rock worshipping. They’re friggin’ rocks...no more...
By the truckload it would seem.
I have seen that in New Hampshire. It is an amazing formation.
I still have less than a year before my resignation from BSA goes into effect and I’ll admit, I am a bit conflicted about this. I’m pissed that these morons vandalized a natural formation, but kinda glad to see the BSA get a bit of a black eye.
Leave no trace...these “leaders” (used loosely based on their childish antics in the video) should have just left the area and reported the “loose” rock to the Park Ranger.
I just don’t believe the so called excuse, these clowns were acting like a bunch of frat boys.
Not likely, it would probably only receive a severe scolding. But if it did it again, it would probably be tranquilized, caged and driven 50 miles away and released and forever prohibited from being a scout leader.
Of course it would eventually have fallen by itself. Maybe have been many years in the future, but nothing lasts forever right?. To push on it to destabilize it and make it fall is simply vandalism.
These guys will plead out to some lower charge that includes a stiff fine and community service with ten years probation and a suspended sentence of 18 months, I predict. They won’t be made felons.
Also, their jackass troop of yahoo scouts is finished. BSA will see to that. Goobers like these have been a problem in Scouting for a very long time. I don’t know how strong councils are anymore, but back in my day they’d force disassociation from all members involved.
My opinion is that BSA went irrecoverably downhill in the 1970s, but that’s beside the point.
This has nothing to do with abortion (which is also wrong). It has everything to do with some fat a$$ and his pack of undisciplined nose-pickers damaging a park which belongs to the people. If they thought a hazardous condition existed they should have notified a ranger. The people hire these rangers to see to thing like this.
The story says some of their Scouts were jumping on the structures. Damn poor leadership there to be allowing the boys to misbehave like that. Whatever happened to staying on the trail and being good stewards of the public lands.
You justify one example of wrong-doing by citing another. That won’t fly. Is that broken down enough for you?
How about a scolding for the park service?
The man who knocked down the rock did so by being able to put kinetic energy into the rock in synchronism with the movement of the rock.
At the full extent of each movement of the rock, the kinetic energy is transformed into potential energy at the point where the rock stops moving.
The rock then reverses direction as the potential energy is converted back to kinetic energy and the rock moves back toward the man. At some point near where the rock was found initially, the kinetic energy would be at a maximum.
The rock will move past this point of maximum motion, converting kinetic energy back into potential energy, until the rock moves sufficiently toward the man to convert all the movement into potential energy.
Now here's where things get interesting. There is no guarantee and practically no possibility that the amount of potential energy needed to permanently dislodge the rock is the same in both directions.
The man pushing the rock faced perhaps an equal chance that the rock would dislodge itself toward him rather than away from him.
Is every visitor to the park expected to know this? I doubt it. Would the park service personnel be expected to know this? I think so.
If the park does not contain signs such as:
Enter At Your Own Risk
No Unsupervised Minors Allowed
Stay on the Marked Trail
Do Not Touch the Rocks
Caution: Dangerously Unstable Rocks - Stay Away
then perhaps we need to consider jailing the government agents for having created an attractive nuisance and for having endangered the lives of those who have visited the park.
I think the man who dislodged the rock won a lottery which he could just as easily have lost.
Read the thread.
I didn't bring up the topic of abortion, somebody else did, and the original poster responded to it.
They should have used explosives. Dynamite Merit Badges for all involved.
Wouldn’t go overboard, but if one’s religion is worshiping God Almighty, we are stewards of His Creation. Within Reason.
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