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Obama Official: We'll Let You Know In a 'Few Weeks' How Many People Signed Up For Obamacare
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/04/2013 6:27:15 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Imagine that Jeff Bezos asked his vice-president for sales IT how many people had purchased products from Amazon the day before, and the veep said he'd get back to him "in a few weeks." How many nanoseconds do you think that hapless employee would last in his job?

But on today's Morning Joe, there was the Obama admin's David Simas, sporting the lofty title of Deputy Senior Advisor for Communications and Strategy, smiling insouciantly while saying that it would be a "few weeks" before the Obama admin would say how many people had signed up for Obamacare. Conclusion: either: 1. the Obama admin's information technology planning and implementation is grossly incompetent; and/or 2. President Obama doesn't want Americans to know just how few people have signed up for Obamacare--particularly in the young-and-healthy demographic, upon whose willingness to make the uneconomic choice of signing up the entire house of cards depends.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; amazoncom; davidsimas; morningjoe; obamacare; obamacarefiasco
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They need to try to figure out how to get all his non-existent Twitter followers to “sign up” so they have a number that goes beyond the hundred’s place.


21 posted on 10/04/2013 6:53:28 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, 34 Hispanics and 8 welfare queens.

HF


22 posted on 10/04/2013 6:55:13 AM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: VideoPaul

Before the official sign up date, I went to mnsure.org (MN) and looked up rates. For my wife they would raise her premiums by $120 / month, and the deductible by $600 per year. So basically $2040 more per year before they would pay a penny of coverage.

For the cheaper plan... they have $5300 deductibles which includes prescriptions. So they don’t pay for anything until you hit $5300 + premiums in annual medical expenses.


23 posted on 10/04/2013 6:55:58 AM PDT by RDasher ("El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“smiling insouciantly” - THAT’S WHAT THEY ALL DO, and that’s when you call them out by getting personal with them by pointing it out. They’ll drop that stupid smile and show who they really are in a split second. Romney knocked B-HO off of HIS stupid ‘nice guy’ crap in the debates, early on.


24 posted on 10/04/2013 6:56:38 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’d wager that most who signed up were 0 bummer voters or members of congress who had to pass it to see what’s in it.


25 posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:14 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: VideoPaul
I just tried signing up” becuase, well, I want to see how much more the Obamacare premiums are over what I’m paying now. I filled out the most basic information including their security questions.

Please tell me you did not enter your personal information into that system. You can go here

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

to get a guesstimate. I'm afraid that once you are into that system you will be the targeted by the obamma care thugs. I would recommend no one place ANY personal information into that database.

26 posted on 10/04/2013 7:03:26 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Obama Official: We'll Let You Know In a 'Few Weeks' How Many People Signed Up For Obamacare

IOW, "We need time to fudge the numbers and hide all the problems"

27 posted on 10/04/2013 7:07:25 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: CodeJockey

The Kaiser site doesn’t tell you what the PREMIUMS are, though.

I want real, hard numbers for my arguments. I want to be able to lay it out and say< This is what I have out of pocket now, this is what I’ll have out of pocket if I use O-Vomitcare.

And seriously, is there any information being asked for on that site that the feds don’t already have?


28 posted on 10/04/2013 7:08:01 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: VideoPaul
The ratcare premiums are one thing, it's those sky-high deductibles that are the real killer. Big, big surprises in store for the Obamatrons.
29 posted on 10/04/2013 7:09:33 AM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: CodeJockey

There’s a massive credibility difference between “experts estimate” and “here is the dollar and cent amount that I was quoted”. I my situation (broadcast news media) I have to have real indisputable numbers.


30 posted on 10/04/2013 7:10:08 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pay for healthcare?

Ain’t nobody got a dime for dat.


31 posted on 10/04/2013 7:10:27 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The biggest story of the day IMHO. The first step taken by the Administration on the to path to an inevitable Obamacare Rollout mea culpa.

What if you gave an Obamacare Rollout and nobody came? We are about to find out.


32 posted on 10/04/2013 7:10:53 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: ClearCase_guy

I have said all along that almost nobody will sign up. A few reasons and not the least of which is the horrendous cost. Most people just cannot afford it and the young don’t need it. They can’t pay their student loan payments how can they afford $175 a month for insurance? Especially if they have a master’s degree and are working 29 hours at the local food coop?


33 posted on 10/04/2013 7:12:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You bring up a good point. What will the enforcers do if it’s a choice between pet project #1 and pet project #2? My wife went back to school and got two masters degrees to become employable again in her field (It worked, big time) but left her with #700+ a month student loan payments.

So if someone has to make a choice between defaulting on student loans and paying for Ovomitcare, which agency wins? Do you claim a hardship loan deferment due to federally mandated healthcare premiums, or I thee a way to get your student loan payment included in the poverty subsidy calculations?

I don’t know the answers to these, but I question whether those who voted for it to see what was in it read to find out, or even bothered to ask the questions before ramming in through in the middle of the night.


34 posted on 10/04/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: VideoPaul

I went to the Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois website (my current carrier) to see what would available. This happened after I got the ubiquitous “Dear John” letter telling me my current plan (you know, the one I could keep if I liked it?) just died. That site was working fine, so I entered some “hypothetical data” matching my current situation, and found that my new premium would be more than double the current level. And based on my income, very unlikely I qualify for any subsidies. I might get some small relief from the cap based on percent of income (8.5%, I think - not sure), but it would end up still being in effect a second mortgage payment for me. Not going that route.

What I’m looking into is the Christian Healthcare co-ops, like medishare, etc. I think the Obamacare people knew there would be a small but stubborn group of conscientious objectors who could ruin the whole scheme on religious grounds IF they provided them with no escape valve, so to keep things quiet, they provided that escape valve. Or maybe I’m giving the bill writers too much credit and its no more complicated than the co-ops found a way to get themselves a carve out.

In any event, the premiums in the co-ops are dramatically lower, especially for those of us who like to pay our own way most of the time (translate: high deductibles are fine with me), AND it satisfies the statute such that there will be no IRS problem either. I’m still waiting for someone here or elsewhere to tell me why I shouldn’t go that route, especially because I am a Christian and do believe in the co-ops’ underlying principle that Christians should share each others’ burdens, not as a matter of governmental
coercion, but as a matter of voluntary Christian love.


35 posted on 10/04/2013 7:25:58 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What is telling is the number who start the process,
and get to the part where it isn’t free,

and bail out.


36 posted on 10/04/2013 7:27:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Exactly.


37 posted on 10/04/2013 7:29:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Weekly information about new unemployment claims have not appeared this week.


38 posted on 10/04/2013 7:32:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: VideoPaul
Four daY into this foaco, their system is STILL not working. THey don’t want to release low numbers because they are low for one of two reasons: 1) The demand is far lower than they predicted. 2) Their system doesn’t work.

BOTH!

39 posted on 10/04/2013 9:47:40 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The fatal flaw of Obama Care is the health of the young and the fact that if they do not have insurance they can still go to an emergency room and receive treatment at no charge if they have an accident, a runny nose or infection. The hospitals can not legally turn them away.

They would be fools to sign up for Obama Care. Why pay money if you can still get your health care for free. Those on welfare have no income and thus will not be assessed a penalty. A one percent penalty on zero income is still zero.


40 posted on 10/04/2013 9:53:43 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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