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House Republicans pass test vote to defund Obamacare; shutdown edges closer
The Washington Times ^ | 20 Sep 2013 | CONNECT: Facebook Twitter RSS HOMENEWSPOLITICSRADIOLOG INE-MAIL ALERTSSUBSCRIBECLASSIFIEDSE-EDITION

Posted on 09/20/2013 8:31:43 AM PDT by mandaladon

House Republicans survived a key test vote Thursday on their plan to keep the government running while trying to halt the health care law, defying a veto threat from President Obama and inching closer to a shutdown showdown with Senate Democrats. Top Republicans say their party’s strategy is unlikely to succeed and not worth shutting down the government, but some rank-and-file lawmakers said they have to draw a line now and use the leverage of the spending bill to end the president’s signature achievement.

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To: KittenClaws
If dems want to talk that talk, I say make them walk the walk.

If it comes to the government actually shutting down, the talk from the libs will sound something akin to what and abusive parent says after they have smacked their kid around, "See, look what you made me do, this is all your fault!".

And the media will be there like an enabling spouse saying to the repub kids, "You shouldn't make him mad, your behavior caused this."

21 posted on 09/20/2013 8:41:15 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Doesn’t matter....It has to go through the DEM Senate and the president would sure never sign it. He’s just laughing his butt off.

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Maybe So. But it pisses Obama off more than anything. Remember his reaction to the Navy Yard Shooting? It was a tragedy and all that, but then he went on to blast Repubs for focsing on defunding Obama Care.

This is a huge victory. But... the battle is not over.


22 posted on 09/20/2013 8:41:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: teletech

No, it has not been defunded by the House.

The House stripped all Obamacare funding.


23 posted on 09/20/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Sacajaweau

The farther they can go in putting Dems or squishy RINO’s on record against the defunding, and the greater the awareness they can raise about the GOP versus Democrat positioning on the issue, the better for 2014 and 2016. (As long as they don’t go nominating another Romneycare candidate—yes, they are still undoing the damage caused by Mitt.)


24 posted on 09/20/2013 8:42:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sacajaweau

Because it is highly unpopular and there are some dems who would like to be re-elected next year, I suspect it will get some surprisingly good dem support, as long as it is not enough to actually pass it.

But I suspect our government will be shut down this time. I’m kinda excited about it, actually. But I fear I’m excited in the same way those southern gentlemen in the early scenes of Gone With the Wind were excited about kicking some yankee butt. :-(


25 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mandaladon

This was a gutsy and righteous move. The press will pile on them, but the people will thank them soon enough for having the foresight to stop this train wreck.


26 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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27 posted on 09/20/2013 8:43:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s not the point. The rudderless GOP has to establish some principles upon which to get some credibility. No GOP congressmen or senators voted to pass Obamacare. It was a totally partisan disgrace that was crapped upon all of us.

I don’t care if the effort fails. We can’t change the future if we can’t fight now! Cruz and Lee are right! Fight and don’t stop fighting!


28 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:08 AM PDT by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Doesn’t matter....It has to go through the DEM Senate and the president would sure never sign it. He’s just laughing his butt off.”

With no funding, though, doesn’t that make the Affordable Care Act moot?

It’s not clear to me what will happen next. Will Republicans present a new health care insurance plan? Will we revert to totally private health care insurance in the mean time?


29 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:23 AM PDT by July4
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To: mandaladon

Actually, it WILL work, because some D senator has to decide whether he or she is going to impale himself on this or support a guy willing to through anyone and everyone under the bus (except Assad and Putin) to achieve his ends.

If they vote to cut funding, and still let the government run, the Senate can vote their conscience, keep the government running, and then say into the microphone afterward, “A moment of pause to get Obamacare right isn’t a bad thing.”

The House did its job. The asshat from Kentucky now better do his - deliver every Republican and peel off vulnerable D’s. This isn’t hard.

You send the thing to Obama’s desk, and when he vetoes it, both sides can say Obama shut the government down, not the Congress.

If it hasn’t occurred to D’s yet in Congress, Obama sees it as a bipartisan ‘FU, here’s to me’ arrangement.

It’ll work - you just need the testicular fortitude to do it.

And the senator from Kentucky needs to know that if he let’s this through, it will be forever known as “McConnellCare”


30 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Cheerio

Get the Senate RINOS on record! Mitch McConnell is crapping his diaper right now.


31 posted on 09/20/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: teletech

Hasn’t this happened before?


Yes. But that was when folks like Graham and McCain had power and there really were no Cruz’s.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Give up. Roll over. Accept your fate, serfs.


33 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:17 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Turbo Pig
If it comes to the government actually shutting down, the talk from the libs will sound something akin to what and abusive parent says after they have smacked their kid around, “See, look what you made me do, this is all your fault!”.

And the media will be there like an enabling spouse saying to the repub kids, “You shouldn't make him mad, your behavior caused this.”


I have no doubt that that is what they'll say.

Again. So what? Until they shut down the government, its all just threats and talk. Threats that the wussies in the House seem to succumb to every time.

34 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:23 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ConservativeMan55
No, it has not been defunded by the House.

The House stripped all Obamacare funding.,p>Will the Senate strip the House "defund language" from the bill? Hope not but I won't hold my breath.

35 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:25 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: July4

DE-funding is not the same as funding.


36 posted on 09/20/2013 8:45:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon

Wimmins an’ chillin dying in da streets ‘cuz of dis.......


37 posted on 09/20/2013 8:46:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Sacajaweau
Mark Davis .... heard him this morning regarding his article and I think he makes some good points:

Our Moment Has Arrived: All Hands On Deck to Slay Obamacare

They may lose this battle, but I am just glad to see SOMEBODY with the courage to fight back. The country is starting to pay more attention and grassroots is mobilizing. If you surrender before the fight, you lose every time. After the Syria debacle, where the public resoundingly said 'no' and Congress was listening, nothing is impossible. Look at how the country was founded ... whoever would have thought those patriotic 'rebels' would win? We've lost this spirit that made us such a great country .... time to get it back.

38 posted on 09/20/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Turbo Pig

The folks at work were talking about this, blaming the republicans. I told them that what has just happened is the republicans have passed a budget, defunding a plan that is very unpopular. Now the senate will show where they stand and decide if they want to shut down the government over funding of a plan most people don’t want.

And if they side with the house, the president gets to do the same.

They tried to argue, but I continued to lay it out in simple terms.

The house is doing the will of the people. We will see if the senate and president follow suit.


39 posted on 09/20/2013 8:47:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
When we take the senate next year

THIS MUST BECOME A PRIORITY!!
40 posted on 09/20/2013 8:49:02 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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