Posted on 09/20/2013 6:49:48 AM PDT by schmootman
SNIP Six months into his papacy, Pope Francis sent shock waves through the Roman Catholic church on Thursday with the publication of his remarks that the church had grown obsessed with abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he had chosen not to talk about those issues despite recriminations from critics.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Your Holiness,
Liberals are obsessed with gays, abortion, and birth control.
Sincerely,
lesko
If he denies that these are vital issues in the RCC and every other denomination, he is blind. Just because he says it, that does not make it true.
hummm, I don’t know what to make of this, perhaps we’ll know more shortly.
I see clearly, the pope continues, that the thing the church needs most today is the ability to heal wounds and to warm the hearts of the faithful; it needs nearness, proximity. I see the church as a field hospital after battle. It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars! You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else. Heal the wounds, heal the wounds . And you have to start from the ground up.
I know what the Pope means here, and hes right: there is so very much more to Christianity than its teachings on sexuality and abortion. But this is where I think he goes badly wrong: his remarks will be received as the Pope saying that this stuff doesnt matter all that much. Francis cant claim he was misquoted or that the article gave the wrong emphasis, because he personally approved it before publication. He may not have intended it this way, but it will be taken as such by a people, especially in Europe and North America, who have closed their hearts and minds to the Churchs unchanging message on these topics, precisely because these are the hardest things for modern people to accept.
Look at the weight the media, who amplify his words, put on the homosexuality, contraception, and abortion parts of a very long interview. The world wants to be told, Its okay, do what you like. He no doubt doesnt mean at all for that to be the lesson of his words, but thats how they will be received.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/pope-francis-the-era-of-jp2-benedict-is-over/
Makes me glad I’m not dependent on a “man” for my understanding of our Lord. This MAN is turning out to be a buffoon.
The church is called upon by God to be a plumb line for society to use in measuring how far or near it is to the mark.
I am not Roman Catholic, but that is how I read the Pope's remarks.
I’ll read the original remarks and not the spin that the NY Slimes puts on it.
Obsessed about the murder of MILLIONS of unborn babys? Yes okay this obsession is SINFUL in what manner......
Thank God I dont require a pope.
I posted the interview yesterday, and the NY Slimes is woefully and willingly wrong....the Pope’s message was not what the headline implies.
The Pope is, I think, speaking without regard as to how his words will be misconstrued by the mass media.
Obsessed about the murder of MILLIONS of unborn babys? Yes okay this obsession is SINFUL in what manner......
Thank God I dont require a pope.
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Exactly!
It’s in reaction to the supporters of gays and abortion being so “obsessed” with the Church.
those who are obsessed with it are liberals and liberaltarians, OK .they are virtually the same
If these groups stopped pushing their agenda then we would not have to raise the issues to defend the family and children.
From his past comments it seems to me that the Pope is just as “obsessed” by these topics to have discussed them at length. How about the Pope really putting his money where his mouth is and getting rid of some of his blasphemous bishops?
BUMP
This guy could be running the RNC. Seems uncomfortable with people who are actually trying to abide by their moral principles. They are inconvenient to the hierarchy’s obsessive desire for “inclusiveness” that has ruined virtually all of the mainline Protestant churches.
Maybe Francis doesn’t attend Mass on a regular basis. I only remember one visiting priest warning us about gays getting into the priesthood. i am also a three time Grand Knight. I NEVER heard anything about Contraception and we only talk about Abortion when we make a donation the the Respect Life committee and add something to the end of the Pledge of Allegiance. (You’ll have to become a 1st Degree Knight to find out what it is).
I have a couple of questions. If any of you kind Catholic folks will take the time to answer, I’d really appreciate it.
1. Why do y’all call pope “Holy” “Father” even with capital H and F? Being a non-Catholic, I don’t understand how a person, an elected/selected(?) official of a church organization, could be addressed as such. To me, there is only one Holy Father and He is our God.
2. Why do you pray TO saints? After all, they were human beings here. I pray only to God in Jesus’ Name.
3. My neighbor told me that she does not believe Jesus had brothers. I don’t want to get into a religious discussion with a neighbor, so I don’t ask her.
These are sincere questions and I am not being sarcastic.
Thanks in advance.
Given the popes recent FATWA against the scriptures...stating that atheists were candidates for sainthood...I have zero respect for his theology.
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