GOP lawmakers disappointed by Ted Cruz should have listened to him more carefully before

Washington Examiner ^ | 9/19/2013 | Byron York

[Ann Archy]

Beginning to think that Byron York is a Democrat.

[Donnafrflorida]

i put him in the camp with rove and hume.

[Gaffer]

I am glad to say my former Congressman Tom Graves (my district changed slightly and I got a new Congressman Doug Collins)spearheaded the revolt with a number of other brave conservatives (my new Congressman included).

[markomalley]

Beginning to think that Byron York is a Democrat.

(First, I don't know his politics)

Why? Because he points out problems in the GOP caucus? Because he identifies that the Senate GOP will not vote to defund Obamacare...that Harry Reid will strip the language out of the Senate version,,,

(the following are my words...but do not appear in York's op/ed)...and then that likely the conference committee will approve leaving it out?

And then most of the House members, who have pulled the wool over their constituents' eyes, will approve the conference report?

Pointing that out makes York a Democrat?

[olezip]

Beginning to think that Byron York is a Democrat.

Byron York certainly is pessimistic. Rather he should have mentioned that...

It was irresponsible to pass a law without reading what is in it.

It is irresponsible to kill babies because it is cheaper than taking care of them.

It is irresponsible to create death panels to kill old people because it is cheaper than treating them.

It is irresponsible to force Christians to help kill babies because it is cheaper.

Please defund Obamacare and get rid of a destructive and counterproductive law that cannot be implemented as written.

History has shown time and again that centralized governments do not work; they are oppressive.

[Venturer]

Cruz has been right all along and THAT is what makes these old Republicans angry.

[nathanbedford]

Come on Byron, you are either attempting to generate a schism where none should exist or your trying to find an excuse to put words on paper.

Every second day you were on Bill Bennett's radio show telling the world that the votes were not there in the Senate; you admit yourself that Ted Cruz all along has said that the votes presently were not there in the Senate; you admit that Ted Cruz has said all along that it is necessary for the people to put pressure on their legislators for this to succeed.

Where is the story? York now quotes these obscure Republican congressman as somehow feeling betrayed by Ted Cruz? Please. Many of our Republican legislators might be stupid but there is none of them too stupid not to know how to count and it has always been obvious that with Republicans in the minority in the Senate and with Senate Rinos hardly an endangered species, that the votes were not there and are not yet there.

But the most annoying aspect of this article is the fact that the votes to defund Obamacare do not have to be there in the Senate. They have to be there only in the House of Representatives and once Obamacare is defunded, the entire equation changes. That is Ted Cruz's argument, it has always been Ted Cruz's argument. He has argued that the Republicans must make the case to the people that it is Obama shutting down the government, Obama is doing so out of ideology to defend his signature piece of legislation which is killing jobs, killing the economy, ruining healthcare, and ultimately ruining the nation.

In making that argument we will be making it to a segment of the country which already is a majority, that is the majority of the people who are already opposed to Obamacare. Once Obamacare is defunded by the House, the question is not why do Republicans want to shut down the government but why do Democrats want to shut down the government to preserve Obamacare? If the Senate declines to accept the Republican continuing resolution to keep the government open, and claim that it is the House Republicans who are shutting down the government when it is in fact the Democrats, nothing prevents the Republicans every single day of the week when The House is in session from passing a new continuing resolution which funds the government apart from Obamacare. Every day the Democrats will have to make persuasive logic out of the fallacy, they will have to stand reality on its head, they will have to lie day after day. Sooner or later the absurdity of their position will become clear even to low information voters and that will eventually change the dynamic in the Senate.

So far the mainstream media has put out as indisputable reality that by failing to fund Obamacare the Republicans would be proactively shutting down the government. That is a preposterous and untenable statement of fact. Force the Democrats to defendant it. Take reality to the people.

It is at this point that the left and the Rino's cleverly shift the argument. It is at this point that they say, "the votes are not there in the Senate" and "the president certainly will not sign a bill repealing Obamacare." This is not a bill to repeal Obamacare but to defund it. The issue before the country is whether or not to keep the government open without funding Obamacare the issue is not whether or not to repeal Obamacare. This puts Senate Democrats, Senate Rinos, and the president on much less advantageous ground. They are shutting down the government to deny the people a delay in the implementation of Obamacare when they have already delayed, exempted, or subsidized the implementation of Obamacare for themselves and their cronies. The Democrats position only succeeds if they can flimflam the people into believing that it is the Republicans and not they themselves who are shutting down the government.

Which side of that argument would you rather debate? Which side of that argument would be more comfortable for a Senate Rino? Once shut down the issue is not whether Obamacare should be repealed but whether the government should be kept open. Republicans want to keep it open the Democrats want to shut it down. Which side of that debate do you like?

[JLAGRAYFOX]

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM.........Ted Cruz & Mike Lee are 100% dedicated to defunding or disabling Obamacare, period!!!! What you folks need to do as both Ted Cruz & Mke Lee pleaded for last night on the “Hannity” show is to get the faithful out & sign/endorse the Lee/Cruz defund Obamacare petition at:

WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM....Sign/Endorse...TODAY!!!

1,500,000 have signed already & clmbing at a rapid pace to 2,000,000!!!

[LibLieSlayer]

NEVER trust a man in a bow tie. byron is as progressive as fdr was.

[LibLieSlayer]

Pure rat bastard traitors. hume and rove both tow whatever line the progressive rupert and ailes tell them to promote.

[LibLieSlayer]

No, but a life’s history of being an inside the beltway liberal republican does though.

[mylife]

The point is, lean on your Senators!

[LibLieSlayer]

We are going to Darwinize the old republican progressive machine... we will or we will go down swinging. We can no longer coexist with these traitors to our very Foundational Principles. RETIRE THEM ALL IN 2014!

[Ann Archy]

Byron doesn’t wear a bowtie that I’ve ever seen. Besides my dad always wore a bowtie and he was as honest as the day is long.

[LibLieSlayer]

Very well stated and I am justabouthisclose to getting tired of debating and I am ready to take the gloves off and rumble with these republican parasites... progressive republicans that HAVE BEEN IN DC SO LONG THAT IT IS THEY THAT HELPED TO PUT US INTO THE PROGRESSIVE PIT THAT WE ARE DROWNING IN TODAY!!! Vote them ALL out in 2014. Flush the toilet of DC. It isn’t a swamp... it is a cess pool.

[LibLieSlayer]

My name is proudly on that document.

[Incorrigible]

Thanks for that.

[LibLieSlayer]

He used to wear one all of the time. Yeah I know but your Dad and my Grandfather lived in times where Bow Ties were the norm. They wear them today to stand out and to try and look like “brilliant” Albert while doing it. I wouldn’t doubt that old byron voted for obama... at least the first time. I apologize if my long standing disdain for byron offended you.

[noprogs]

Harry can strip the defunding language, but if the reconciled bill fails a vote in the House, it’s back to square one.

I don’t know if we have that much spine in the House. Stay on the phones to your Representatives!