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Vladimir Putin Puts John Kerry In Check On Syria
Business Insider ^ | 9 Sep 2013 | Michael Kelley

Posted on 09/09/2013 10:03:02 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

On Monday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Syria could avoid an American attack by turning over "every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week."

Russia immediately jumped on the offer, as Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow will urge Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control in a bid to avert military intervention.

This is a deft political move on Russia's part, especially since the State Department immediately walked back Kerry's comments by saying that he "was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhorussia; kerry; putin; soskerry; syria; yellowlineinthesnow
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To: Revolting cat!

Assad has made a fool of Putin. Anyone who thinks Assad will give up his chemical weapons is a total moron.


81 posted on 09/09/2013 11:59:20 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Da Coyote

Like!


82 posted on 09/09/2013 12:15:43 PM PDT by The Public Eye
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To: bolobaby
Is it sad that I’d rather have Putin as our president???

After looking at Hillery and the likely Republican slate, Putin stands head and shoulders above the domestic pack of losers. He is obviously a man who loves his country which makes him a patriot in my book.

Regards,
GtG

83 posted on 09/09/2013 12:55:14 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: henkster

I thought that the gas pipeline was actually for Russia. In fact, read that Israel has agreed to sell their new gas to Russia.

Supposedly, Saudi Arabia is opposed to the gas line, as it threatens their income from oil to Europe, etc, and they are funding the rebel forces.

We need to do a little more digging on this, and I am off to look for links in my “history”- Understanding all this is so important.

One thing I am sure of, it is a “quagmire”.


84 posted on 09/09/2013 1:04:21 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: jacquej

The best way to market hydrocarbons is by pipeline (Keystone XL, anyone?) We aren’t buying any gas and very little oil from Saudi Arabia. The best way to sell both is to ship to Europe by pipeline.

The Russians export gas, mostly to Europe. They don’t want the competition. I don’t think they want a pipeline through Syria that they don’t control. If Russia is buying the gas from Israel, it’s only to keep them from selling it to Europe.


85 posted on 09/09/2013 1:09:36 PM PDT by henkster (democrats will sacrifice the lives of our servicemen so 0bama doesn't look bad.)
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To: henkster

Took me some searching, but maybe we could consider this article describing the situation.

It is an interesting read! I am very interested in your take on it.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1377892800.php


86 posted on 09/09/2013 1:14:57 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: henkster; All

Also found a link to this interesting interview.

Worth a listen, in my opinion.

http://usawatchdog.com/u-s-ship-of-state-is-sinking-its-a-derelict-vessel-jim-willie/


87 posted on 09/09/2013 1:20:21 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

Welcome to FR.


88 posted on 09/09/2013 1:24:24 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Army Air Corps

Putin .... This Obama administration is so bad I am forced to take “”Putins “” side of this verbal judo. Our nations leadership is so bad that we or at least myself , are embarrassed at wanting our President to get jack slapped by my / our life long enemies current leader.

Pull your egomaniac head out of your ass Erkel Mugabe before you screw up even more than I though one could as president.

This administration is a frigging embarrassment at every turn. Total trash polidiots that will get our enlisted and commissioned killed with their stupidity.

Damn these socialist democrat assholes ! Damn them...

Hope yer safe AAC ....


89 posted on 09/09/2013 5:00:50 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: elhombrelibre

Does this mean we will not be subjected to Obama’s war speech? Hope!!!


90 posted on 09/09/2013 5:10:25 PM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: SueRae
And Amnesty should be the first priority imo at that will allow the importation of 50 million new voters for democrats/socialism
91 posted on 09/09/2013 5:40:45 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: SueRae
And stopping the Amnesty bill should be the first priority imo at that will allow the importation of 50 million new voters for democrats/socialism
92 posted on 09/09/2013 5:41:14 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: bunster
this is going to be a VERY interesting week — could Putin save O’s behind? The drama continues.

I know I've been praying for divine intervention, for God to stay 0bama's hand and save our nation from 0bama's folly. Is this that moment a humble knee bends in gratitude for more time?

I wish it could have played out otherwise...as our Constitutional representative form of government demands, but for whatever reason it did not.

Instead Putin teaches us how to humble this administration. O'Reilly this evening is bloviating about how this makes America look bad etc. and yet...Kerry will eat crow for the regime's failure to try diplomacy first and 0bama will get served humble pie for dessert.

Or will this play out another way? Does the regime have the foresight to look upon this 'breather' to plan it's next move? We all know this doesn't end in peace...

93 posted on 09/09/2013 5:48:12 PM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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To: elhombrelibre

94 posted on 09/09/2013 10:41:50 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: jacquej

I read the article last night. I agree with a lot of it. It noted what I thought; the Israeli deal with Russia is a way for Israel to market the gas (without using the moslem Arabs) and for Russia it helps tighten their control of the gas market.

It’s also interesting what they said about declining Saudi oil production. I remember 08 Bush went to the Saudis to grovel to them to get them to increase production. It was the oil price shock that triggered the financial meltdown and burst the housing bubble. The impression I got from reading between the lines on the story was not that the Saudis WOULDN’T increase production, it was that they COULDN’T.

The article is also correct about the end of OPEC. It’s really a dead letter organization, with so many non-OPEC sources of oil becoming available. OPEC could only exist where Saudi Arabia was able to set oil prices, and the United States was the largest importer. In that relationship, we and the Saudis pretty much set the world oil price. Now, we are no longer the dominant importer and Saudi is no longer the dominant producer when you look at the global market as a whole. Yes, both countries still carry economic weight in the oil markets, but we don’t dictate them. Thus, the creation, and now the end, of the “Petrodollar” as the article points out.

In this new oil and gas market, though, with the advent of fracking and so many other players, I don’t see how Russia can come to dominate. Yes, they have large reserves. But they won’t be able to set the price. What they can do is monopolize Europe and be a major supplier to China and perhaps India.

What is interesting is that we may no longer be a major player in the world energy market. Or maybe I’ll say we shouldn’t. If we hadn’t been corrupted by Saudi and Chicom money, both in Congress, the bureaucracy, and the courts, North America should be an energy autarky right now, and for the next 25 years.

There is a major realignment going on in the world right now. The post-World War 2 system is coming to a close. The issue of Syria was bigger than most people realize, because it has the potential to end the Post-World War 2 order the way the assassination of Franz Ferdinand ended the Post-Napoleonic order. But the time is not ripe yet. The power blocs have not yet firmly coalesced. The Syrian crisis may be similar to the Moroccan Crisis of 1905, where war wasn’t a real possibility, but it began the process of cementing the opposing power blocs so that sooner or later, a crisis will occur where one of the two power blocs believes that the option for war is a “now or never” proposition.


95 posted on 09/10/2013 5:10:35 AM PDT by henkster (democrats will sacrifice the lives of our servicemen so 0bama doesn't look bad.)
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To: henkster

Thank you!

I appreciate your insights on this. Did you ever read a book titled “The Fourth Turning”?

Your comments on the end of the “post WW2 system” remind me of that book’s main idea - that we are in a “crisis” cycle - one which happens every fourth generation.


96 posted on 09/10/2013 6:14:13 AM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: Made In The USA


HARDLY


HARLEY



97 posted on 09/16/2013 12:11:43 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- a yellow line in the snow ----- ----- -----)
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