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SOLDIERS SPEAK OUT ON SYRIA: 'We Are Not A World Police'
Business Insider ^ | 9/2/13 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 09/02/2013 9:01:30 AM PDT by Nachum

With the President poised to strike in Syria and the Congress set to vote on the issue the week of Sep. 9, the debate about U.S. military intervention in the two-year-old civil war is already happening amongst the American public.

Some Americans have made their voices known to their representatives, while many others have said the U.S. should stay out of the conflict, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

In the poll, only 20% said the U.S. should take action, although that was up from 9% last week. Even if it's clear the Assad regime used chemical weapons on civilians, only 29% said the U.S. should intervene.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; police; redline; russia; soldiers; speak; syria; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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To: binreadin

Absolutely...

Government routinely betrays Americans, breaks the law, and operates outside the Constitutions.

Those who continue to be good subjects are part of the problem and are guilty of aiding and abetting.


81 posted on 09/02/2013 10:28:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EEGator
I believe if it was a potential war that freepers supported you would also see support from the military.

The military is being abused as the worlds policemen at great cost of lives and limb and for what end.

Iraq we have given back and it has sunk into utter distruction and Afghanistan will be no different.

Freepers have the pulse of the military and a tight grip on reality.

Can anyone explain to me what gain we have for all of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and civillian support to the military that gave their lives or were maimed in these locations?

Mr. amateur hour, AKA President Obama telegraphs every military move and loves to get in front of the cameras and talk about things he doesnt understand like he is intelligent.

He has no foreign affairs experience, military experience, business experience and I bet my paycheck he has no teaching experience.

John Kerry and Chuck Hagel are the last persons we need on watch in a time on crisis.

If we attack Syria, whats coming next will make Bengazi look like a traffic ticket.

82 posted on 09/02/2013 10:28:33 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: EEGator

You post cute pics and in response as you totally evade the questions?

Ya see that tag line below?

You define it el perfecto.


83 posted on 09/02/2013 10:29:33 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: binreadin

When I was an Army officer 40 years ago, my battalion CO had an interesting take. He said that it was normal for NCO’s to gripe. That was part of being an NCO. But if the NCO’s stop griping, you’d better watch out because that means they’re going to take direct action.


84 posted on 09/02/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: Toespi

they will never forgive him for umbrella stunt

he is getting exactly what he caused


85 posted on 09/02/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: EEGator

think Colonel Terry Lakin


86 posted on 09/02/2013 10:36:11 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Newbomb Turk

I’m against nation building. I’m against getting involved in Syria. We should stay out of it, as it’s of no interest to us.

“John Kerry and Chuck Hagel are the last persons we need on watch in a time on crisis.

If we attack Syria, whats coming next will make Bengazi look like a traffic ticket.”

Agreed and agreed.


87 posted on 09/02/2013 10:36:17 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Nachum
Let Obama save face himself by going up
against Assad in a Celebrity Death Match.

"Girly Man Vs. Muslim Butcher !!"


88 posted on 09/02/2013 10:36:58 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: little jeremiah

the Hatch Act has been in place forever

Military is supposed to keep quiet about politics

Nothing new


89 posted on 09/02/2013 10:38:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: EEGator

look, the military does not have to say anything

if they get an assignment from someone they don’t trust, the assignment will not happen

our military was strong because each member was trained to act independently and legally

that does not necessarily mean “ours not to reason why, ours but to do or die”

they have a duty to inform the higher ups that the plan won’t work, is stupid, they think it is a mistake

this ain’t a video game


90 posted on 09/02/2013 10:41:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Bryanw92

>>Totally inappropriate. He shouldn’t be making political statements in uniform.

If we were still a nation of law, I’d agree. But, the US government has gone rogue. Cabinet members are violating their oaths of office. The President is out of control. Elections are rigged. The courts are corrupt. We are being bankrupted as the nation’s wealth is siphoned off to a select few.

When George Washington presented himself to the Continental Congress, he wore his military uniform—the one he wore in service to the King.

These men are patriots. They have a rare courage in this day of comfort and luxury. They don’t hide their faces out of cowardice. They hide their face because they represent hundreds of thousands of brothers-in-arms who feel the exact same way.


Well said.


91 posted on 09/02/2013 10:42:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Toespi

A POTUS does not leave men to die in a situation like Benghazi.......it was only a matter of time before this coward received blowback from the warriors.

A POTUS does not allow a warrior to hold his umbrella.

A POTUS does not send warriors into battle to fight WITH and FOR the enemy who murdered over 3000 countrymen on September 11, 2001.

Therefore, it only stands to reason that an American warrior can also draw red lines.


Also very well said.


92 posted on 09/02/2013 10:43:07 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: dragnet2

So many great comments on this thread. I agree with you 100% as well.


93 posted on 09/02/2013 10:45:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: yldstrk

“they have a duty to inform the higher ups that the plan won’t work, is stupid, they think it is a mistake

this ain’t a video game”

I agree. I don’t know where you think I stated otherwise. My initial, and only, point about the picture was that you can’t protest in uniform...that’s it.


94 posted on 09/02/2013 10:45:45 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: binreadin

Egypt is a shining example of how to do it.


95 posted on 09/02/2013 10:46:01 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: BenLurkin

>>Something about this smells funny, don’t you think — Shirley?

Yes. The whole thing stinks. Who would have ever thought that the government would become so corrupt and the people would become so lazy and complacent that the military would start moving in the direction of a coup. This is a baby step, to be sure, but it is still a step.


96 posted on 09/02/2013 10:46:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: yldstrk

Maybe that law is a rotten law.


97 posted on 09/02/2013 10:47:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: yldstrk

Maybe that law is a rotten law.

Should have added - there are miles and miles of stacks of rotten laws.


98 posted on 09/02/2013 10:48:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Newbomb Turk
Iraq we have given back and it has sunk into utter destruction and Afghanistan will be no different.

Even those drooling in cups knew what the outcome would be.

The morons who supported the compassionate war cock'nbull insanity will tell ya we only needed another 3 trillion in tax dollars, 10,000 more American bodies and just another 5 or 20 years to pull it off....They'd still be cheering and talking big sh*t as our guys were getting picked off in 2020 for Gods sake.

We gained nothing, we won nothing...But it sure in hell cost thousands of blown up people and *trillions* in American treasure...

99 posted on 09/02/2013 10:48:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yldstrk

The Hatch Act is from 1939. Times were a bit different then, and the world was facing something quite different from today. And maybe even then it wasn’t so great, who knows. But just because a law has been on the books since 1939 doesn’t mean it is a good or constitutional law.


100 posted on 09/02/2013 10:52:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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