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Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
Cato Institute ^ | August 26, 2013 | Ilya Shapiro

Posted on 08/26/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

This article appeared on Daily Caller on August 26, 2013.

As we head into a potential government shutdown over the funding of Obamacare, the iconoclastic junior senator from Texas — love him or hate him — continues to stride across the national stage. With his presidential aspirations as big as everything in his home state, by now many know what has never been a secret: Ted Cruz was born in Canada.

(Full disclosure: I’m Canadian myself, with a green card. Also, Cruz has been a friend since his days representing Texas before the Supreme Court.)

But does that mean that Cruz’s presidential ambitions are gummed up with maple syrup or stuck in snowdrifts altogether different from those plaguing the Iowa caucuses? Are the birthers now hoist on their own petards, having been unable to find any proof that President Obama was born outside the United States but forcing their comrade-in-boots to disqualify himself by releasing his Alberta birth certificate?

No, actually, and it’s not even that complicated; you just have to look up the right law. It boils down to whether Cruz is a “natural born citizen” of the United States, the only class of people constitutionally eligible for the presidency. (The Founding Fathers didn’t want their newly independent nation to be taken over by foreigners on the sly.)

What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.

There’s no ideological debate here: Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former solicitor general Ted Olson — who were on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore among other cases — co-authored a memorandum in March 2008 detailing the above legal explanation in the context of John McCain’s eligibility. Recall that McCain — lately one of Cruz’s chief antagonists — was born to U.S. citizen parents serving on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.

In other words, anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.

So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.

That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.

So why all the brouhaha about where Obama was born, given that there’s no dispute that his mother, Ann Dunham, was a citizen? Because his mother was 18 when she gave birth to the future president in 1961 and so couldn’t have met the 5-year-post-age-14 residency requirement. Had Obama been born a year later, it wouldn’t have mattered whether that birth took place in Hawaii, Kenya, Indonesia, or anywhere else. (For those born since 1986, by the way, the single citizen parent must have only resided here for five years, at least two of which must be after the age of 14.)

In short, it may be politically advantageous for Ted Cruz to renounce his Canadian citizenship before making a run at the White House, but his eligibility for that office shouldn’t be in doubt. As Tribe and Olson said about McCain — and could’ve said about Obama, or the Mexico-born George Romney, or the Arizona-territory-born Barry Goldwater — Cruz “is certainly not the hypothetical ‘foreigner’ who John Jay and George Washington were concerned might usurp the role of Commander in Chief.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; cruz2016; naturalborncitizen; piedpiper; strawman; tedcruz; texas
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To: HomeAtLast

I heard him say the exact thing at a NH speech on C-Span. But it wasn’t as you describe it here.

He said the poorest people are being harmed the most by OBAMACARE. He named those groups you mentioned as being harmed the most because they tend to struggle, economically. At no time did he even imply, much less say, that the GOP has an alternative plan for these specific groups a la pandering to those groups. He talked about what HE believes should happen regarding healthcare. Widespread competition among insurers, portability of plans from job to job, medical savings accounts that kind of thing.

His entire point is to stop Obamacare.

He didn’t make a case for stopping it??

UH, that’s not the problem, the American people are mostly desperate to stop it, it’s the elite class that won’t lift a finger to deFUND it. Cruz said the grassroots must rise up if there’s any chance at all to stop it.


261 posted on 08/27/2013 9:21:24 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: David

Obama’s father never applied for and nor did he even desire to apply for US citizenship. He was an anti-colonist who hated the United States. The Natural born citizen requirement was placed in the constitution by our framers to protect the union from just such a person as Barrack Obummer.


262 posted on 08/27/2013 9:22:54 AM PDT by Constitution 123 (Knowledge is power but to some, ignorance is bliss.)
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To: null and void; Constitution 123
Drawback to such an amendment would be that it would make the present occupant of the White House a citizen at birth also since his father was a multi generational US Citizen.

Huh?

When was his father ever a US citizen?

Is there some record of this Kenyan born British subject ever even expressing the desire to be an American citizen?

I guess I can't tell where in your post, the sarcasm tag was supposed to apply.

I think you know that his father wasn't born in Kenya.

263 posted on 08/27/2013 9:49:48 AM PDT by David
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To: BigEdLB; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; Brown Deer
Eleanor Darragh, b. Wilmington DE 1935. Moved from DE to TX as a teenager, graduated Rice Univ TX age 21 (1956)... Ummm I think that makes her qualify. Only moved to Canada in the 1960s. The age 14 thing. The 10 year resident thing all passes muster, unless you want to disqualify Delaware as a state because of SloJo Biden... LOL

OK--very good work. I guess we ignore the possibility that Texas exercises the option. We further assume as I think I have heard elsewhere that there are no other gaps in her record. If you assume Canada in 60, that still leaves her 4 years in the US after college and I believe she had a significant job record that supported that conclusion.

I wonder if you are working with the correct statute? There was a 1970's effective date amendment that changes the periods. I have been less worried about that for the reason that as I recall, the periods are more favorable for our position that the five years after 14 statute.

That still leaves you with a Con Law problem--invalidity of the Mother Citizen Child statute because the son of a father under those circumstances would not pass--that is subject to repair. You retroactively provide that a child of a father citizen who can prove descent (DNA evidence or other acceptable standard) gets citizenship on the same basis as the child of a mother citizen.

That still leaves you with the existing Con Law view of Article II Sec. 1 which is that it means within the geographical territory of the US.

You put the fix on that with an amendment that defines Natural Born Citizen to include someone who is a citizen at birth--maybe you add some other requirements like two of four grandparents and five of eight great grandparents.

If I were really the lawyer doing this, I would look for a way to get the current guy out of the definition because I still think there is hope that we can undo many of his acts which required a "president" to effectuate.

264 posted on 08/27/2013 10:01:27 AM PDT by David
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To: David; Darksheare

Yes. But you said he was a multigenerational American.

Either that was sarcasm, or you had a brain-fart, or there was some other higher point I’m too dense to get right now.

And I’ve already had coffee.

Maybe I should switch to Darksheare Coffee?


265 posted on 08/27/2013 10:02:24 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: David

Ah. You meant his alleged genetic father rather than his official father of record.


266 posted on 08/27/2013 10:03:55 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: David

“”””I think you know that his father wasn’t born in Kenya””””

Okay, Please inform us.... Where was the man who barrack claims is his father Born?


267 posted on 08/27/2013 10:05:53 AM PDT by Constitution 123 (Knowledge is power but to some, ignorance is bliss.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Not according to Robert Natelson, author of “The Original Constitution”

I don’t agree totally with his conclusions, because he does, a number of times, stress the Founders reliance on Vattel.

But according to him there is no doubt that what the Founders meant was a derivation of the British flavor... a “natural born citizen” was one who EITHER:
Was born on the land (Cruz wasn’t) or
Had a FATHER who was a citizen. (Cruz didn’t).

In addition, Cruz has (or had) dual citizenship. Conflicting allegiances. That’s a big problem.

This has zero to do with whether someone likes Cruz or agrees with what he says. We can’t elect someone ineligible just because we like what they say, that’s a tactic from the other side, where the outcome is more important than the means.


268 posted on 08/27/2013 10:07:52 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: txrangerette
He talked about what HE believes should happen regarding healthcare. Widespread competition among insurers, portability of plans from job to job, medical savings accounts that kind of thing.

Why are these things the responsibility of the government? Do you think they should be? I do not.

His entire point is to stop Obamacare. He didn’t make a case for stopping it??

His case is that it hurts minorities, and the poor. That is a very lame case that befits liberals and social activists (ie, leftists). He did not make the case -- hardly anyone does, these days -- that it is inherently unfair to everyone, that it's socialized medicine. He didn't give reasons why it doesn't work and isn't right -- for anyone. He just whipped out the poverty card, the minority cards, the downtrodden oppressed cards. If that's not pandering I don't know what is.

As I said, he's among the best we've got, but he'll get nowhere by accepting their premises and speaking their code talk.

269 posted on 08/27/2013 10:10:56 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Galt's Gulch: it isn't Valley Forge.)
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To: djf
Had a FATHER who was a citizen. (Cruz didn’t).

Given that the stress is on one parent and given today's politically correct climate, and given that there has been no definitive ruling/law on this subject, can there be any doubt that since he has one parent who was a US Citizen that in today's political climate, he would be considered Natural Born?
270 posted on 08/27/2013 10:14:32 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, IMHO, the whole idea about being “natural born” is that you don’t have to stretch things and mince words and do the hokey-pokey to conclude that the person is a citizen.

No possible conflicting allegiances, born in his native country, both parents citizens.

If you have to make all kinds of twists and turns and do all sorts of finagling then seems to me game over, the person IS NOT a “natural born” citizen.

If we rely on “political correctness” or an “evolving Constitution” then we are no better than the other side.

If people don’t like it, they can amend it. But they can’t ignore it.


271 posted on 08/27/2013 10:23:44 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: djf
If we rely on “political correctness” or an “evolving Constitution” then we are no better than the other side.

The problem with that assumption, is that the Constitution is already clear as to your understanding that "Natural Born" means 2 parents of US Citizenship.

It is not clear.

So this is not about an "evolving Constitution" but about actually establishing the constitutional meaning of the phrase "Natural Born" since no one has been able to point out the complete, concise definition from the Constitution, US Law, or Supreme Court ruling as of yet here on FreeRepublic.
272 posted on 08/27/2013 10:30:20 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: David

I think the simplest is: American, born, bred and raised.

That is:

Born on US soil.
Born of two citizen parents.
Raised in America.

The founding fathers wanted that one office to only be held by someone with no hint of divided loyalties.


273 posted on 08/27/2013 10:30:35 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: SoConPubbie; djf
The problem with that assumption, is that the Constitution is already clear as to your understanding that "Natural Born" means 2 parents of US Citizenship.

Should have been:

The problem is with your assumption, that the Constitution is already clear and aligns with your understanding that "Natural Born" means 2 parents of US Citizenship.
274 posted on 08/27/2013 10:32:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: null and void

Exactly.

It was a combination of “Citizen of the soil” and “Citizen by blood”.

No other office has such stringent requirements, and the Founders made a point of stating this being a higher requirement than to be a member of Congress.


275 posted on 08/27/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: null and void; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; Constitution 123
Yes. But you said he was a multigenerational American.

Correct.

Father, mother, four grandparents etc.

Ah. You meant his alleged genetic father rather than his official father of record.

I don't know where there is an office father of record for the present occupant of the White House. If you know of such a record, tell me where to find it.

Only legal father I would recognize would be found first in the official hospital birth file for the child; I suppose if you couldn't find one there, you might have to look for extraneous evidence.

276 posted on 08/27/2013 11:20:06 AM PDT by David
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To: Rides3
SO glad you quoted Bayard as an expert, Jeff. That should make it so much easier for you to understand that even those born in the U.S. to an ALIEN father, were NOT U.S. citizens by birth:

U.S. Secretary of State Bayard determined Richard Greisser, though born in Ohio, was NOT born a U.S. citizen because Greisser’s father was an alien, a German subject at the time of Greisser’s birth. Bayard specifically stated that Greisser was at birth ‘SUBJECT TO A FOREIGN POWER,’ therefore NOT “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” within the meaning of the Constitution.

Your quote has been discussed already, Rides.

First of all, it's yet another illustration of the complete historical incompetence of birthers. This is the second time birthers have brought up this quote, directly stating (the first time) or implying (the second time) that the quote was from the same person.

The quote you give wasn't from James Bayard. It was from US Secretary of State THOMAS Bayard, his son, and it was about half a century later.

Secondly (and more importantly) even THOMAS Bayard never stated that the child born on United States soil of an alien parent WHO LIVED HERE was anything but a natural born US citizen.

It seems to have been nothing more than an anti-birth-tourism position. If you moved to the United States and had a child here, that child was a natural born US citizen, even if the parents weren't. If you were TEMPORARILY VISITING the United States (according to the policy of Secretary of State Thomas Bayard) and had a child born here during that time, then no. That child, according to T. Bayard, (who was promptly taken back to Germany, by the way) was not a US citizen.

277 posted on 08/27/2013 11:27:32 AM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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To: SoConPubbie

If Ted Cruz runs, he has my vote.


278 posted on 08/27/2013 11:57:30 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Jeff Winston

1) I didn’t say it was from the same person. It is from Bayard’s own son, the U.S. Secretary of State.

2) Neither Obama nor Cruz “lived here.” Cruz was born abroad. Obama left the country sometime after birth, a condition which U.S. Secretary of State Bayard specifically addresses in the citizenship decision thusly:

“The son, therefore, so far as concerns his international relations, was at the time of his birth OF THE SAME NATIONALITY AS HIS FATHER. Had he REMAINED in this country till he was of full age and then ELECTED an American nationality, he would on the same general principles of international law be now clothed with American nationality.

...”By section 1992, Revised Statutes, enacted in 1866 — “All persons born in the United States, AND NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FOREIGN POWER, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

By the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States ratified in 1868 — “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State in which they reside.”

Richard Greisser was no doubt born in the United States, but he was on his birth “SUBJECT TO A FOREIGN POWER” and “NOT SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES.” He was NOT, therefore, under the statute and the Constitution a citizen of the United States by birth; and it is NOT pretended that he has any other title to citizenship.”

Source: A Digest of the International Law of the United States
http://books.google.com/books?id=wdgxAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Plain as day, Jeff. BOTH Obama and Cruz are Constitutionally INELIGIBLE.


279 posted on 08/27/2013 12:04:06 PM PDT by Rides3
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To: Rides3

The courts have ruled otherwise:
Allen v. Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84531299/AZ-2012-03-07-Allen-v-Obama-C20121317-ORDER-Dismissing-Complaint

Purpura & Moran v. Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo

No court has ruled that Obama is ineligible. No state denied him access to their ballot in 2008 or in 2012. Every member of Congress voted to certify his electors, twice.


280 posted on 08/27/2013 12:37:35 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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