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Tim Tebow's days with Patriots may be coming to end, gets no playing time vs. Lions
Yahoo Sports ^ | 8/23/13 | Dan Wetzel

Posted on 08/23/2013 11:38:04 AM PDT by 0.E.O

DETROIT – Tim Tebow spent most of this Thursday night – perhaps one of his fleeting few remaining as an NFL quarterback – standing near the 50-yard line of the New England Patriots sideline.

When the Pats were on defense, he'd sometimes casually flip a ball around by himself. When they were on offense, he'd put his helmet on, ready to go in – whether at QB or any other position the coaching staff might request.

"You just prepare yourself and be ready for whenever your number is called," Tebow said.

Tebow's number was never called.

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To: discostu

Tebow by all accounts is a premier athlete.
Is he unwilling to play tight end or linebacker in the NFL?


41 posted on 08/23/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: 0.E.O

I think Dallas is the place for Tebow. Can he do any worse than overpaid Tony Romo?????????????


42 posted on 08/23/2013 1:19:24 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: 0.E.O
Yes, not even an adequate passer by any standard...but the objective is to win football games, not to look good doing it. Unfair comparison with Grossman; he's had several years and chances as a starter. Tebow has had only 1/2 of one season.
43 posted on 08/23/2013 1:19:59 PM PDT by twister881
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To: twister881
An owner, GM, & coach with enough balls could take in Tebow and mold an offense around him that would win games, even in today's pass-happy league.

How do you build a team around a QB that can't pass? A one dimension offense isn't hard to stop.

44 posted on 08/23/2013 1:20:21 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Can he do any worse than overpaid Tony Romo?????????????

You would be replacing one quarterback who sucked with another, far cheaper quarterback who sucks. But if you're looking to move games from the loss column to the win column I don't think Tebow can help you there.

45 posted on 08/23/2013 1:22:55 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: nascarnation

Premier athlete isn’t necessarily any good as a QB, each job requires certain skills, and generally by the NFL athleticism is the least of the requirements. Maybe he doesn’t want to be TE or LB, or maybe he lacks those mental skills too. He’s shown a distinct lack of ability to read defenses so TE, with all their optional plays depending on if a blitz is coming and if it’s on their side or the other, is probably right out. LB maybe, but they have to read the offense as well as QBs read the defense, so maybe not.


46 posted on 08/23/2013 1:23:58 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: 0.E.O
He *can* pass the ball, just not above 50% consistently. Same as Joe Kapp, and he took teams to the Rose Bowl, Grey Cup, and Super Bowl.
47 posted on 08/23/2013 1:24:30 PM PDT by twister881
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To: nascarnation
Is he unwilling to play tight end or linebacker in the NFL?

Most teams have players who can already play those positions. Why would they want to train someone who has never played linebacker before?

48 posted on 08/23/2013 1:26:02 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: twister881
He *can* pass the ball, just not above 50% consistently.

Look. He's a great human being. But he's a terrible QB.

I'm a Pats fan, and I've watched all of the pre-season games, and his accuracy percentage is well below that. Many of his passes are wildly inaccurate.

It's painfully obvious, especially in the pre-season, where for the first quarter, Brady completes 15 of 16, Mallet about 50% in the seond quarter, and Tebow, 20% in the second half.

49 posted on 08/23/2013 1:28:12 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: discostu
Somehow the conspiracy theorists on FR seem to be in love with TT.

By my view, most everybody (coaches and players) are pretty much on a "pay for performance" deal, at least after their first contract out of college.

I find it difficult to believe that coaches would pass up performance so they could deliberately shortchange Tebow because he's a prominent Christian.

50 posted on 08/23/2013 1:28:52 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: twister881
He *can* pass the ball, just not above 50% consistently.

Barely above 25% apparently.

Same as Joe Kapp, and he took teams to the Rose Bowl, Grey Cup, and Super Bowl.

Joe Kapp was 50 years ago. If Joe Kapp was trying to break into the NFL today he'd be getting the same response Tebow is getting. Teams expect a certain consistency in their position players. Tebow hasn't even demonstrated a real competence at QB much less consistency.

51 posted on 08/23/2013 1:29:48 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

and here I thought Brady’s play in the Lions game was to make Tebow look good by comparison. What a difference a week makes!


52 posted on 08/23/2013 1:34:44 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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To: discostu

“He’s just not NFL QB material”

Dude-disco, we know that! The challenge is getting a square peg to work in the round whole!

Was Barney Fife law enforcement material?
Was Sally Field really cut out to be a nun?
Could she land on the runway consistently?

Did that stop them? Does any of that every stop real Americans with a can-do attitude?


53 posted on 08/23/2013 1:40:04 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: twister881
Yes, not even an adequate passer by any standard...but the objective is to win football games, not to look good doing it. Unfair comparison with Grossman; he's had several years and chances as a starter. Tebow has had only 1/2 of one season.

I think the comparison is very apt. Tebow is a University of Florida quarterback, as were Kerwin Bell, Rex Grossman, Bob Hewko, Doug Johnson, Eric Kresser, Shane Matthews, Jesse Palmer, John Reaves, Kay Stephenson, Danny Wuerffel, and Steve Spurrier. All are Florida QBs who have played in the NFL in the last 20 years or so. Two of them were Heisman winners. None of them were consistent winners. Tebow won't be the one to break that string.

54 posted on 08/23/2013 1:41:50 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: NonValueAdded
and here I thought Brady’s play in the Lions game was to make Tebow look good by comparison. What a difference a week makes!

Brady's kryptonite is a good pass rush. (See Super Bowl losses to the Giants, the play-off loss to the Ravens, and last nights Lions game).

But please don't tell anyone!

55 posted on 08/23/2013 1:47:52 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: nascarnation

There is a long list of Heisman Winning QB’s who didn’t make it long in the NFL. And an even longer list of great college QB’s who didn’t make it.

Matter of fact, being a great college QB, it’s the norm to be a below average NFL player.

Let’s remember some of them.

Troy Smith
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware

David Klinger
Alex Smith
Graham Harrell
Kordell Stewart
Danny Wuerffel
Eric Crouch
Matt Leinart
Vince Young
Gino Torretta
Ken Dorsey
Chris Weinke
Tommy Frazier

So what’s so different about Tebow from these guys? Is it because so many people want to see him fail because he wears his Christian belief’s on his shoulders?


56 posted on 08/23/2013 1:48:09 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: 0.E.O

Perhaps — and spoken as a true Cornhusker fan, I suspect — but Tebow still deserves the opportunity IMO.


57 posted on 08/23/2013 1:50:26 PM PDT by twister881
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To: skinndogNN
Is it because so many people want to see him fail because he wears his Christian belief’s on his shoulders?

Or has he been over-hyped because he wears his Christian belief on his shoulders?

58 posted on 08/23/2013 1:51:02 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: discostu
Except Tebow’s “approach” has him with a career completion percentage under 50,

Yet when it comes to wins and losses he's above 50.

59 posted on 08/23/2013 1:57:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: twister881

Yes end of story. You mold a team around a guy that needs a high school offense to be remotely effective. And his run in Denver shows the problem with trying, he did OK for a while, until defenses figured him out and he finished the season with 3 consecutive losses, then a squeaked playoff win, and another loss. He has way too many games with single digit completions under his belt, you don’t build a team around a QB that can’t complete passes, EVER.


60 posted on 08/23/2013 2:03:20 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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