[2ndDivisionVet]

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[Hot Tabasco]

what happened when Zimmerman caught up with Martin

Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck so it was the other way around.......He was the prey

[No One Special]

Probably could have used a better opening line like, “It was a dark and squally night”.

[kjam22]

Its a good article....

[Cyclone59]

Truer words have not been spoken about this ENTIRE story

It all comes back to the mom and dad factor. Love it.

[nathanbedford]

Trayvon was not killed because Zimmerman hates black people. Fact is that Zimmerman is just as white as Barack Obama. Zimmerman cannot claim privileges for his whiteness anywhere in America. White people have made sure that you are not white in America until both your parents are born white. In fact there was a time when you were only three-fifths of a person if you were not white. Zimmerman would have been a three-fifther – hands down.

So, without a race-based murder or a hate crime, it could well have been self-defense. Where does that leave us?

That leaves us without a bad guy to convict under a system of identity justice. Identity justice says identify the race, ethnicity etc. of the parties and you have established good guy and bad guy, guilt and innocence.

Pity that Zimmerman's DNA is so confused

[xzins]

There is no question that things would have ended better if Zimmerman had heeded counsel from 911 personnel and restrained himself from following Martin into the bowels of the residential complex.

I stopped there. Immediate evidence that the guy didn't know the basics of the case.

[noprogs]

Eight burglaries in the condo complex the month before Trayvon was shot.

Zero burglaries the month after. Of course the streets were swarming with news crews and reporters during much of that month after, but when a thug stops sucking air, it seems to make other thugs stop and think for a while.

These burglary stats were mentioned in the last few months here on FR.

[DeaconRed]

"The answer lies in getting real about the context of Trayvon Martin’s death Life."

I was hoping the idiot parents would file a civil suit so the truth about trayvon would come out. Not the choir boy the LSM tried to run past us.
He was a bad kid thanks to the way mama & daddy raised him.
mama kicked him out of the house and sent him to daddy. daddy was too occupied with his girl friend to spend any time with the punk.

[Red in Blue PA]

There is no question that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.

I would argue St. Skittles killed himself when he ATTACKED a person who was willing to defend his own life.

May he rot in hell.

[Boomer One]

...”and you would not take kindly to Zimmerman’s cowardice”. A man sacrificing his time and taking risks to protect neighbors is now a coward? This statement I strongly disagree with and believe it shows the author’s prejudice. And once again we see “stand your ground” confused with self defense. Aside from these statements, not a bad piece but could do a lot better if it went into more detail on Martin’s sad family issues and the issues confronting black “families” in general.

[republicangel]

Couldn’t finish reading it... too many basic facts of the case just plain wrong.

[mac_truck]

These two parents were failing Trayvon. That is a fact. Love and parenting do not end with hugs and facilitative visits. Those are important, but surely not the whole story of child raising. Every African-American knows Trayvon Martin before he committed his first serious felony. So, why do we pretend that in America, today, the die had not been cast for Zimmerman to have serious misgiving about Trayvon’s presence in the community – even withstanding the instructions from 911?

You have to wade through a lot of misstatement before getting to this nugget of truth.

[Paladin2]

St. Tray shoulda called 911 on Zimmermann instead of talkin' to his "GF".

Tray shoulda been counting on the gov't to save him rather than taking the law unto himself.

[maddog55]

Decent article from a small news outlet that few people will ever read and it came out 16 August.

[Bringbackthedraft]

And who is Antonio West and why waz he killed?

[exDemMom]

Comments?

When the first paragraph is so full of weighted suppositions about what happened that night, I see no need to read the entire article. The author is strongly biased.

Chances are, Zimmerman would still have been found not guilty without the Stand Your Ground law. All that law does is to try to specify what a self-defense situation is. However, a self-defense situation does not need to be spelled out in law for a jury to recognize when a defendant has exercised his right to defend himself.

Had Trayvon been raised in a culture that censures physically attacking people, he would still be alive today, regardless of Zimmerman's actions.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

“In fact there was a time when you were only three-fifths of a person if you were not white.”

Misquote used to gin up anger... “For purposes of apportionment....”

Slaves were included in census counts which affected congressional apportionment. This provision was meant to limit the congressional representation to southern states based on counts of those non-voting slaves. It has nothing to do with whether or not you were a person.

[MasterGunner01]

Many moons ago, I was the almost victim of a carjacking — before that word was invented. When I went to the main post office in this bad section of town to mail my father's business bills, I always carried my M1911A1. On the way home I went through a rather seedy section with about three blocks that were infested with bars, lowlifes, and hooker. It was a hot July or August night and I drove through with windows up and doors locked. i caught a stoplight on the street I needed to turn onto to get home.

I stopped for the light. The next thing I knew there was a black guy in his 20’s or early 30’s trying to open the locked driver's door. Mt right hand pulled the .45 from behind my back, thumbed the hammer back, and I presented it to the hood's face. His eyes became like saucers and his mouth flopped open. He then did the fastest 180 degree turn on record, bounded across both lanes of traffic in what seemed three steps, and disappeared into a bar. The light turned green, I urned left, went over the bridge, and headed home.

Thinking back on it, the poor sod must’ve had to change his shorts — after he stopped shaking. I was glad I didn't uncork that .45 inside the car because besides the broken driver's door window, I'd probably have ruptured my eardrums from the muzzle blast from the pistol.

[dirtboy]

There is no question that things would have ended better if Zimmerman had heeded counsel from 911 personnel and restrained himself from following Martin into the bowels of the residential complex. There is no question that Zimmerman had juiced himself into fear and hysteria on the speculation that Martin was “on something” and was necessarily “up to no good,” but a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea is hardly loot from a terminating burglary.

Another fact-free liberal opinion on this matter.

[dirtboy]

Everyone profiles young black men because if you do not, one could make you real dead. It is how you decide if you should call the police when a battery of them loiter in your neighborhood. It is how you determine if you should hustle to your car and get out of Dodge when one with menacing countenance, disorganized dreadlocks, and gravity-controlled trousers is friend or foe.

And then some reality injected into the screed.