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USC Student Alleges Campus Police Decided She Wasn’t Raped Because He Didn’t Orgasm
TPM ^ | 07/24/2013 | Zoe Schlanger -

Posted on 07/25/2013 9:41:00 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The University of Southern California is facing a federal civil rights investigation after students filed a complaint that alleged the school ignored campus rape and failed to prosecute attackers even after they confessed.

One anonymous USC student involved in the complaint said that campus police had decided she wasn't raped because her alleged attacker did not orgasm, the Huffington Post reported Monday.

"Because he stopped, it was not rape," she was told, per the complaint. "Even though his penis penetrated your vagina, because he stopped, it was not a crime."

The campus police did not refer the student's case to the Los Angeles police department.

Another student, according to the complaint, was told by the university Department of Public Safety that women should not "go out, get drunk and expect not to get raped" when she tried to report a rape.

The U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights is investigating potential violations of Title IX, the federal gender equality law that criminilizes a failure to respond to claims of sexual violence.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: rape; usc
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t know about Cali, but in Ohio any oral, vaginal, or anal penetration is rape. The penetrators include objects, digits, genitals, and tongues. Since rape is about control and not sex, orgasm has nothing to do with this. If this girl is telling the truth, I hope she owns these idiots.


41 posted on 07/25/2013 11:04:02 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Is that you Bill Clinton?


42 posted on 07/25/2013 11:08:39 AM PDT by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The high school in which I teach recently dealt with a rape trial that became an international sensation. As part of our new training we were inserviced about Ohio rape laws and the rape investigation process. What you are suggesting happens so rarely, and when it does the investigators (real investigators) know and eliminate the issue almost immediately. There are actually more rapes that go unreported than girls claiming rape when it didn’t really happen. Also, and again this is Ohio, a person can give consent but the person to whom consent was given can still be charged and found guilty of rape. If the person giving consent is in a state where he or she cannot possibly make the proper decision for him or herself (i.e. under the influence of drugs or alcohol), then that is also rape.


43 posted on 07/25/2013 11:12:02 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I’m speaking in general. I’m NOT say this girl was stupid. Not sufficient facts to comment on that.

I think we agree. I tell my kids - you can't always control what others do, but you can control the choices you make, and the situations in which you put yourselves.

44 posted on 07/25/2013 11:33:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Responsibility2nd

Uhn huh...

Sounds like an attitude that would have been pervasive decades ago but, today that is still assault and battery with aggravated, etc...

Oh, and rape is rape.

If a guy puts it in once and then grows a conscience well, you just effed up and your life outta be messed up and good.

Now, stand there with your eyes closed. You don’t want to see what my #36 Louisville Slugger is going to do....


45 posted on 07/25/2013 11:33:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am still not used to “orgasm” being used as a verb.


46 posted on 07/25/2013 11:41:02 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: forgotten man

OOOOOooohhh!

NO Wonder!

LORD help us!


47 posted on 07/25/2013 11:41:34 AM PDT by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: jameslalor
Since I took SexEd 101 way back about the time of the infamous Roe v. Wade decision, it could very well have been what may have been thought was up-to-date at the time. It could have been based on interviews with pregnant teens (Yeah, my BF and I diddled around, but he pulled it out well before ejaculation). Or, it could have even been the 1970s version of "Reefer Madness" to scare teens into sensible behavior.

In those days, ejaculation or not didn't get you off the hook for a rape charge. For that matter, neither did penetration or not. We knew that any kind of intimate unwanted sexual contact between your private parts could put you on or even over that line and behaved accordingly, for the most part.

We also knew that slapping or pinching a girl on the butt, while rude, didn't even come close. Now the law and definitions are so screwed up that society can talk about "penetration which doesn't result in ejaculation" NOT being rape, on one hand, and about brushing against a woman's breasts even accidentally POSSIBLY being rape on the other. Go figure.

I can't make sense of it other than the normal libtard tactic of dividing society and creating chaos from which the libtards can harness to gain political power.

48 posted on 07/25/2013 11:45:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I’m glad to learn that. I think both the army posts and air force bases nearby use rent-a-cops for entry control and military security forces if/when there is trouble.
49 posted on 07/25/2013 11:47:36 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Responsibility2nd
Uniform Code of Military Justice (military law)

ART. 120. RAPE AND CARNAL KNOWLEDGE . . . (a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape . . . Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete either of these offenses.

The military has it right (although you can't rape your wife???). I hope this is a moron who misinterpreted California law and not a mistake in CA law. That was rape, what Whoopi Goldberg calls "rape-rape", even if he stopped, and the rapist should be prosecuted for his crime.

50 posted on 07/25/2013 12:44:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Campus didn’t want the stigma of a rape occurring on campus jurisdiction so they tried to cover their own ass. Well, they got that stigma now.


51 posted on 07/25/2013 12:50:57 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: snowstorm12
Campus PD IS actually the real police.
52 posted on 07/25/2013 12:53:01 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Darren McCarty

technically anyways

I wonder how often they enforce underage drinking laws?


53 posted on 07/25/2013 12:55:01 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

When I was in school, MIP’s were as common as speeding tickets.


54 posted on 07/25/2013 12:57:55 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: socal_parrot

My first thought as well.


55 posted on 07/25/2013 12:58:08 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is not surprising at all.

As a professor, I can say that the idea that the Catholic Church is some sort of leader in sexual malpractice is ridiculous.

American universities have institutionalized a rape culture.

This story is symptomatic of a widespread and generally understood problem on every campus in America.

College students widely believe that if a woman gets drunk then she should expect forced sex from a male.

It is all part of our Blue elite culture that is evident in super ridiculous events like Anthony Weiner.


56 posted on 07/25/2013 1:00:32 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: 9YearLurker
According to Akins, it wouldn’t have been rape if she got pregnant, because would me she enjoyed or welcomed it.

It's cute the way you repeat liberal talking points.

Akins said that women get pregnant less often when they are raped then with consensual sex. Less often does not mean "do not" it just means that it is less likely. Words do mean things.

BTW he is right, statistically women are less likely to get pregnant from a rape.

57 posted on 07/25/2013 1:07:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Another student, according to the complaint, was told by the university Department of Public Safety that women should not "go out, get drunk and expect not to get raped"

Sounds about right.

58 posted on 07/25/2013 1:35:10 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_and_pregnancy_controversies_in_United_States_elections,_2012#Todd_Akin:_.22legitimate_rape.22

He was an idiot both for thinking it and for saying it.


59 posted on 07/25/2013 1:44:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: C210N

Definition of rape: “....any penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the act” as quoted by the Commander of the Pueblo in 1968, in his signed “confession”.


60 posted on 07/25/2013 1:51:21 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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