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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: moehoward

Corey probably told him to do it


321 posted on 07/11/2013 7:21:11 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip
Prosecution has obviously been working on argumants towards lesser charges...for more than a year? Bury the defense in argumentation, case after case, none of which (so far) seem to fit.

Including child abuse is a reach. If Trayvon had gotten the gun away from Z and shot him, he could be tried as an assault. To call that boy a child is a ridiculous.

322 posted on 07/11/2013 7:21:33 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: tioga
Child abuse?

I am incredulous. Has the state even proven that Martin was a child -- under 18.

323 posted on 07/11/2013 7:21:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ~Pandora

So far as I remember the defense has never stated case law to refute the prosecution, up to this point, I wonder why.


324 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:00 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: RummyChick

Holder told Corey to tell him to do it.


325 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:03 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: zencycler
Would it then be okay for the judge to ask him at the end of every court day, starting from the beginning, whether he had decided?

'okay' is too ambiguous for me to answer.

She just got through asking him again and asking if he accepted not pleading guilty to lesser charges.

"Sentence first, then we can continue with the trial."


326 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:11 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: MNDude

I am starting to think they will convict him of something

I hope to God that is some gang in the prison that will protect him...because he will need it.


327 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RandallFlagg

This whole racist farce has been disgusting from Day One. This is just over-the-top crap! But the evil judge will probably allow it.


328 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:34 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: RummyChick
"Child Abuse"

Hail Mary in an attempt to get some jail time by playing on the emotions of a female jury???

329 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:37 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: RummyChick

Absolutely......racial appeasement.


330 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:47 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: tioga

Child abuse? Dear, God, the prosecution is desperate for ANY conviction. This is not child abuse. This is a black thug attacking the wrong man. One who could defend himself. With all the evidence judgeCrazyAssCracker didn’t allow, it is known what a thug he was.

They have been grasping at straws since the beginning and are determined, as you said to get him on “something”. It burns my butt that the judge goes along with everything the state wants. Despicable, the whole thing!


331 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:51 AM PDT by Conservative145
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To: Toespi
WTF TV. Just said letters have been placed in jurors chair to see if they want to be interviewed by media after verdict. (Horror images of after the CAnthony verdict come to mind.....the public outcry)
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Any word on exactly WHO IN HELL placed these letters on the jurors’ chairs? And WHO IN HELL approved that. Enquiring minds want to know since this is a subtle (correction—blatant) threat/reminder that these jurors will be publicly KNOWN. IMHO

This kind of crap is being orchestrated & approved by someone.

332 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:11 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: Ditter
All you have to do is to click on #209

I am aware of how to navigate FR. My point is that on a fast moving Live Thread, one line chat posts w/o context come off as clutter. With context, some semblance of a group conversation is maintained.

Just my personal preference. Y'all do as you will

333 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Conservative145

Comment From Stephen
Doesn’t “child abuse” imply there is a relationship between the child and adult that existed for a length of time more than a few seconds? Also, doesn’t child abuse necessarily excludes that the child physically assaulted and might have intended to kill the adult? Mantei’s nuts.


334 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:43 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m surprised the State ain’t also chargin Z for Ted Kennedy’s continued sobriety


335 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:54 AM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: RummyChick

“I hope to God that is some gang in the prison that will protect him...because he will need it.”

There is.


336 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:01 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Sacajaweau

Don’t know when, but you can be sure it will happen and there will be a big shindig held at the White House in their honor.


337 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:23 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: RummyChick

Bill Sheaffer:
Tallahassee Lassie: This is typical in all murder trials. Hard to say what Judge Nelson will do. I think it’s a stretch but we’ll see— and I would say very creative by the State


338 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:33 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: House Atreides
I’ve thought for years that Nancy Grace is either mentally ill or has some sort of personality disorder.

NANCY disGRACE has more issues than National Geographic....she's as wrong as 2 boys in the horizontal position!

-Peytr DeVries

339 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Toespi

From the beginning. This is a travesty!


340 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:58 AM PDT by Conservative145
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