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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: All

Got this over at Hot Air and thought it’s a good thing to have in our thread:

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘GZ racially profiled TM’

There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’

* The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands.

* Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin.

* It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’

Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TV’

Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’

* Under Florida’s self-defence laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force

* No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony (I posted the self-defence law earlier on this thread)

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’

* If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions

7. ‘GZ could have left’

* Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force

* TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’

* One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death, as I proved above in my link regarding the murder of the Utah soccer referee, who was punched once in the face by a teenage player

* GZ was legally carrying a weapon

* There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant

* A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened

* Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’

* SYG is NOT at issue in this trial.

* The defence is a classic self-defence case

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’

* Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’

* As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country


2,501 posted on 07/11/2013 2:44:20 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Hoodat
Has that thing got a Hemi in it?

Hmmm ... not a bad idea.

2,502 posted on 07/11/2013 2:44:37 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (.Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: DCBryan1

>> What is an “overloaded” gun?

To the liberal mind, that’s a gun with ammunition in it.


2,503 posted on 07/11/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: xzins
As others are saying, according the Jeantel his friend, Martin had actually gotten all the way home. If he was home, why did he circle back?

I have a theory he might have been carrying someting other that the tea and Skittles he wanted to ditch before he confronted GZ.

2,504 posted on 07/11/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: xzins

“If he was home, why did he circle back?”

1. To jump Zimmerman.
2. To break in someplace. Were there break-in things found?

Z was ‘cleaned up.’ Was Martin? Someone posted a bunch of things about tampered-with evidence.

What’s the average age of a Chicago gangbang shooter/victim?


2,505 posted on 07/11/2013 2:45:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: JoeProBono

Corey looks like a female impersonator - a really bad female impersonator.


2,506 posted on 07/11/2013 2:46:04 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan.)
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To: Ingtar
If the defense decides that they don’t need a closing argument

The defense will close. I am guessing based on what we have seen so far that MOM will do a masterful point by point rendition of the facts referencing the testimony and other evidence. He will be calm and earnest until the end when he will discuss the jury instructions and what the jury must believe to find Z guilty.

2,507 posted on 07/11/2013 2:46:50 PM PDT by lawdave
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To: xzins
If he was home, why did he circle back?

My guess, certainly not evidence, is that Jeantel urged him to kick the crazy ass cracker's butt.

2,508 posted on 07/11/2013 2:47:03 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (.Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: novemberslady

That was the most pathetic closing I have ever witnessed. I’m predicting a NOT GUILTY by 8 p.m. tomorrow.

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You maybe correct. But, don’t forget that the state gets the final rebuttal once the defense completes their closing arguments. So they get to punch holes in the defense and theirs will be the last words heard before the judge sends them into deliberations.


2,509 posted on 07/11/2013 2:48:14 PM PDT by deport
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To: JediJones

Zimmerman also did an interview and did the reenactment before he had a lawyer or had been charged with anything. If he had intentionally killed the thug I don’t think he would be have been so willing to talk to cops before he had a lawyer. That is unless he’s the dumbest person who ever lived. And like you said if you intend on killing someone are you going to call the cops and tell them about the suspect? Of course not. Zimmerman knew he had done nothing wrong and was not afraid of telling the truth. When that lying Bozo the Clown said that Zimmerman kept lying and changing his story, what interview has he been listening to. The first thing he told the cops after they arrived was he was attacked and he started hollering for help over and over, and no one came. Good Lord, everything he has said has been the truth. He had nothing to hide and didn’t try to hide anything.


2,510 posted on 07/11/2013 2:49:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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I can’t believe we’re all this way down this road and I still haven’t heard the knock-knock joke.


2,511 posted on 07/11/2013 2:49:17 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: deport

“So they get to punch holes in the defense and theirs will be the last words heard before the judge sends them into deliberations.”

Which is when the State will play the race card and imply riots/OJ trial aftermath.


2,512 posted on 07/11/2013 2:50:52 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: soycd
Ring neck Rachel said Martin had made it home during their phone conversation. Martin then doubled back to beat on George.

To leave off his MJ and blunts? If so, why not his Watermelon and Skittles? Go figure.

2,513 posted on 07/11/2013 2:52:03 PM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: NKP_Vet

do you know if that interview can be reviewed by jury...was it entered as evidence or...IIRC, it was played in court in front of jury (by the dumbazz persecutors...?)


2,514 posted on 07/11/2013 2:52:14 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: viaveritasvita
The odds are really good you won't hear one from MOM tomorrow, either.
2,515 posted on 07/11/2013 2:56:09 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ConservativeInPA

OR... he had hidden his ‘break in’ tool in the bushes right after he first saw Zimmerman, and after he got home safe, he decided to go back and get it. That’s why he came popping out of the bushes and confronted Zimmerman. He was in the bushes trying to find it when he heard Zimmerman on the phone talking.

Well, he was probably mad by then, being ‘interrupted’ again, so he decided to DECK THIS FOOL.


2,516 posted on 07/11/2013 2:57:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: snarkytart

My take on Day 1 was the BDLR would not wear well with the jury over time, but that MOM would. Almost 2 weeks later, I think that is even more true than I’d have expected.

MOM seems more even-tempered, almost as if he’s a kindergarten teacher, patient to explain, doesn’t get upset when testimony isn’t what he seems to want, just says “OK” and rephrases or recasts until he does get what he wants, and he is calm in dealing with kids(prosecutors)having little hissy fits. I didn’t expect to come away quite so impressed as I am.


2,517 posted on 07/11/2013 2:57:42 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: viaveritasvita

If it’s in evidence, they have to ask the court to play it for them.


2,518 posted on 07/11/2013 2:58:05 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: imardmd1
To leave off his MJ and blunts? If so, why not his Watermelon and Skittles? Go figure.

Maybe he was smart enough to know that stashing the Watermelon and Skittles with the pot would be a tipoff that it was his if somebody else found it.

2,519 posted on 07/11/2013 2:58:49 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

“they make a lot of noise about retrying him, and accept a plea to the only crime he actually committed: littering.”

Yea, but it was hazardous waste—I think that carries a longer sentence.


2,520 posted on 07/11/2013 2:59:36 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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