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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: noexcuses
Bernie’s all over the place

Yeah, well, it's only his career and life on the line.

1,721 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Fawn

I’m both a cat and dog person. I do rescue and my house is crazy with adults and four animals, but what can I say! I’m still a conservative, though!


1,722 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: longtermmemmory
Andrew Branca, LOSD‏@LawSelfDefense12m #zimmermantrial Rumored: Mantei, Guy forgot ammo, pass note to defense, "You guys have any more of theat S&B?" Defense shakes head sadly.

S&B is a type of ammo, so maybe the joke is that the State came to a gun fight armed with an unloaded gun (or a knife). (??)

1,723 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:09 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Racehorse
Zimmerman ignored warnings to stay away till police arrived. True?

No, not true. Glad you're not on the jury. You are a low-information trial observer.

1,724 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:18 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: tioga

If I were to make a guess I would say that Dems are NOT dog lovers..to be a dog lover you have to be caring and loving towards a living thing, the Dem party is the party of abortion and murder..I doubt they would care about pets


1,725 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:24 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Makes you wonder how many close cases Baldy has brought to the house...


1,726 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:34 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: don-o

Liz Weihl is attaboy’n the state......good ole Fox News ( spit )


1,727 posted on 07/11/2013 12:00:43 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: dragnet2

BS: Trayvon Martin deserved better than Bernie’s closing arguments.

No — they deserve each other.


1,728 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Racehorse

I can follow you if I want to follow you.

You can not hit me or hurt me for simply following you.

I can kill you if I need to do so, to stop you from beating me.

That is the law, moron!


1,729 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:06 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: don-o

Question marks are not disproving case! Questions = reasonable doubt- Pick a theory or u cannot win!! Is he throwing this?!


I’ve been wondering that since last week. I compared the prosecution (and maybe the judge) to Eight Men Out.

The whole point, however, is to not be so bad that you give yourself away. :-)


1,730 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:11 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: patriot08

a 6 woman jury scares me.


Hell, if a couple of them have PMS during the deliberation, they might have to call in a SWAT team to subdue them.


1,731 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:27 PM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: matt04

I would be curious to know that since GZ and the neighborhood watch group was concerned about a rash of burglaries before the shooting of TM, what happened to the burglary rate after the shooting?? Is it possible to assume GZ got their man?


1,732 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:35 PM PDT by BobinIL
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To: SeaHawkFan

B says Z was lying about yelling for help, then having his mouth covered by TM. Could not be covered and yelling, along with alleged lack of blood on TM hands.

It's simple. The struggle went on for about 40 seconds. At one point Z's starts yelling, then has his mouth likely covered as he claims. Then some seconds later, Z starts yelling again, after TM hands moved. TM had allegedly noticed Z had gun. goes for gun. Z starts screaming for help while's he's struggling to keep TM's hands away from gun.

No blood on TM's hands because Z wasn't bleeding enough to have blood drain out of nose? Blood only drains out of nose once Z upright for some time?

1,733 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:36 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Truth2012
I can not believe the death threats today.

It's because of these threats that I put away my regular carry gun (a .380) in exchange for more firepower, a .45 ACP Glock. With a couple of full magazines.

I'm one of those old white males that they seem to want to kill.

1,734 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:38 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Nervous Tick

Just turning in. What I’ve heard so far reminds be of a know-it-all giving an aural book report when he had not read the book. Pure BS


1,735 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Nita Nupress

Bill S is pretty hard on Bernie right now

No excuse not to...

Feels like he has fallen through the looking glass

other talking head bizarre comment about the Dream speech..playing it right now


1,736 posted on 07/11/2013 12:01:55 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: txhurl

She probably is more familiar with mud.


1,737 posted on 07/11/2013 12:02:11 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

WFTV poll: How do you think the state’s closing is going so far?

Very well (5%)

Okay (9%)

Not too well (13%)

Very poorly (71%)

No opinion (2%)


1,738 posted on 07/11/2013 12:02:13 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: cyn

Thanks . . .

All Zimmerman had to do . . . what I would do . . . was wait for the police.


1,739 posted on 07/11/2013 12:02:17 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Darren McCarty

It’s astonishing that most of the things in the charging document are not illegal. “Profiling” is not only not illegal, it’s smart. Following suspicious characters is legal, and brave. Shooting a guy who’s beating your head in is legal, and smart.

There’s nothing here.


1,740 posted on 07/11/2013 12:02:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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