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Day 23 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Closing Statements
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 11, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/11/2013 4:59:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 11th, is DAY #23 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the defense rested its case. A legal analysis via Professor Jacobson HERE.

From my perspective the entire case ended, as expected, early in the day yesterday when Judge Nelson gave George Zimmerman his personal Platinum Express DCA Acquittal Card. The ruling, and more importantly the legal determination she used on the ruling, regarding the Trayvon Martin phone evidence was an immediate Nuclear DCA option. Nelson essentially ruled against admissibility based on ”authentication”. She could have kept it out under other legal reasoning, but no, she chose the one without the slightest chance of being upheld by a District Court of Appeals. IMHO this was intentional and aligns itself with the way she has ruled during the pre-trial discovery phase, and during the case itself. She’s a rigid ideologue, but she’s not stupid – this was intentional.

By ruling the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be “authenticated” to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin just gave the dismissal of the case to George Zimmerman with a bow on it.

As it was carefully explained to me, the phone is like a bucket. The data inside the phone is like marbles in a bucket. Some marbles from calls, others from pictures, others from texts, etc. The State brought the bucket into court – and validated the bucket contents with their own witness from the phone company – Both the State and the defense then began arguing their case around the phone call marbles in the bucket – Primarily with Rachel Jeantel. But no-one challenged the bucket itself. The State authenticated the bucket and the content of the bucket during the introduction.

The defense picks up the same bucket the state hands them, and now begins to use the contents – texts and pictures – and then Nelson rules the bucket itself cannot be authenticated. It doesn’t work that way.

If the state authenticates evidence, it cannot be divided and only authentic when the state holds it, but not the defense. Flawed logic – ABSOLUTELY positioned to give such a prejudicial outcome, the appeal would result in dismissal, not retrial. Nelson gave the case away to George Zimmerman.

She could have ruled on relevance, admissibility, or other factors – but she chose the one destined to fail, “authentication”. She gave it away.

In other news, people are catching on to the Eric Holder, Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Community Relations Service – being the actual puppeteers behind the entire construct of the false case. To them we say “welcome to the party pal“.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Raebie
I can not believe the death threats today.

If Zimmerman get off. Lets all just start killing off all the white old males. #LARIOT hoe like dan say.— SVPXRGŌD™ © (@SVPXRsmoke) July 11, 2013


1,681 posted on 07/11/2013 11:51:53 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: longtermmemmory

I love and adore both my cats and my two dogs. I’m a conservative.


1,682 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:01 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SeaHawkFan
I'd rather know someone who wanted to be a fireman, cop, or paramedic than someone who wanted to be a gang-banger criminal.
1,683 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice organized rallies against George Zimmerman.)
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To: DCBryan1

didn’t miss anything

Bernie going on a break


1,684 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:31 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Racehorse; Hulka
All Zimmerman had to do was wait for the cops.

He was walking back to his van to wait for the cops when Trayvon came out of the bushes and confronted him. Trayvon had left the safety of his 'own' back yard and snuck back up on Zimmerman as he was returning to his vehicle.

I guess you haven't been following the trial closely ?

1,685 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

If I blow somebody away that’s trying to bash my head in the concrete I damn sure ain’t gonna try to revive the SOB.


1,686 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:53 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

There’s really only one way a largish young lady would know what wet grass sounds like.


1,687 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:04 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: RummyChick

Freudian as hell......”..covered his mouth up while trying to kill him.....er er shut him up........” Now that from the mouth of bald dudes


1,688 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:08 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: RummyChick

I hope MOM goes into reasonable doubt.

The classic is to remind jurors of their oaths.

Trial is UNFAIR to the prosecution by design.

If 100 doubts and just ONE doubt remains then the state as failed. The burden is on the state for ALL or nothing as to doubt. There is no compromise.


1,689 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Racehorse

“But . . . there was no violence until Zimmerman pursued and killed the kid . . . self defence or not”

Except that is not fact.

“Thankfully, the family I surprised didn’t want to kill me.”

Matter of opinion.


1,690 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:21 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: RummyChick

Bill S

Going not good..not good at all


1,691 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: UCANSEE2

2:48

Kathi Belich, WFTV@KBelichWFTV

The state is showing photos of the scene and questioning #Zimmermanon9 ‘s claim to be looking for an address but no proof of following.


1,692 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:32 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: DCBryan1

Mark curse count for recess


1,693 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:37 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

If Z is acquitted, I would bet that Holder will go after him on a federal civil rights charge.


1,694 posted on 07/11/2013 11:53:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: RummyChick

Juror B 29 is avoiding eye contact with the prosecutor. She’s in the front row. #Zimmermanon9


When I was on jury duty, during the closing arguments of the attorney I already decided I would rule against, I had to FORCE myself to keep eye contact with him to give him the opinion I was on his side.

i.e. avoiding eye contact is a real bad sign for whoever the juror is avoiding eye contact with.

IMO


1,695 posted on 07/11/2013 11:54:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: don-o

WTF TV. “how is it going for the state.......BS. not good”


1,696 posted on 07/11/2013 11:54:33 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: UCANSEE2
When you are forced to sit somewhere and listen to someone drone on and on, and you have a pen and paper, what do you do

I went to college, then university for years, and I doodled on my note pages all the time (did it in high school, too). If I wasn't taking a note, I was doodling. It helped me concentrate on what was being said - it went in my brain better if I was writing or doodling. Mostly I drew boxes or flowers. Don't discount someone doodling as not paying attention.

1,697 posted on 07/11/2013 11:54:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Signalman

Bill S

not a good closing argument by any stretch of the means

Poor

Kathi said b29 won’t make eye contact and has not this whole time.

not good


1,698 posted on 07/11/2013 11:55:00 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: txrangerette

>> if the jury is hung, instead of convicting, that’s better than nothing.

Hung jury is MUCH better than nothing. As someone on the thread pointed out earlier, one minute after the judge declares mistrial from hung jury, West and O’Mara are down at the courthouse filing to have the Verdict of Acquittal that Nelson denied upheld by an appeals court. If they’re successful — and I think they very well might be — Zimmerman is acquitted. No new trial, no nuthin’ else.

Keep in mind that in some ways the VOA is *easier* to argue, because the JUDGE can’t claim she didn’t ALSO know about the text messages, drugs, football physique, and all that other stuff she wouldn’t let ‘em show the jury. I think once quality judge(s) look at all the data she had, they’ll reverse her denial of the VOA.

There is precedent for an appeals court reversing a denied VOA, too — ‘cause O’Mara PRESENTED CASES to Nelson when he argued for Z’s VOA.

Meanwhile, through the process, Z is still out of jail.


1,699 posted on 07/11/2013 11:55:16 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: longtermmemmory

You’re confused.....dog ppl are most often Democrats..


1,700 posted on 07/11/2013 11:55:18 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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