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777 Crash at SFO (San Francisco)
Twitter ^ | July 6, 2013

Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster

Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 777; airlinecrash; asiana214; boeing; flight214; planecrash; sanfrancisco; sfo; southkorea
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To: Tzfat

” It is not unlikely they were following the wrong glideslope “

CNN just stated that Flightaware shows a steeper glideslope for this aircraft today, than for the same flight yesterday.


361 posted on 07/06/2013 2:00:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Drango
The 777 will land itself. Honestly it doesn’t need a pilot IMHO. Darn near idiot proof. Something mechanical happened if you ask me.

All modern airliners can "land themselves" (actually, they can't - someone still needs to bring the thrust to idle).

However, we RARELY use autoland. In visual conditions as SFO was today, we would NEVER do autoland. Autoland requires that all other aircraft and vehicles stay clear of various ground transmitters, which is only done when specifically requested (think, never), or when the weather is less than 800' ceiling and 2nm visibility.
362 posted on 07/06/2013 2:00:49 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: mom4melody

I fly a lot. I HATE the crammed-in economy seats, the boarding process, the un-boarding process, walking down those long halls full of multitudes to get to my gate/baggage claim, but this story doesn’t make me FEAR flying at all.

I’d even go so far as to say modern aircraft design has benefitted from previous crashes by learning from them to design safer aircraft.

That only two died may be a testament to that.


363 posted on 07/06/2013 2:02:06 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: dragnet2
It’s going to be pilot error or mechanical problem.

Well other than wind shear, what's left? Gravitational worm hole?

364 posted on 07/06/2013 2:02:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tcrlaf

How about the survival of the Humans and a testament to the Designer?


365 posted on 07/06/2013 2:02:18 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: tcrlaf
"I hope that crew doesn't have any pressing plans. They will be sequestered for several days, while the NTSB interviews them."

No, they won't. They will be interviewed, eventually, but NTSB will try not to disrupt their schedule.

366 posted on 07/06/2013 2:02:24 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Borax Queen

It wasn’t the nuclear-medicine stress tests setting off sensors. It was an article about sensing the ‘stress hormones’. Ugh, still can’t find it.


367 posted on 07/06/2013 2:03:39 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: steve86

I sure don’t see it. Look at the starboard engine laying next to the fuselage; that thing’s huge. Hard to hide it unless it’s burrowed into the ground. I’m guessing it was sheared-off or fell-off. There’s a chunk missing from port side wing, maybe where it used to be.


368 posted on 07/06/2013 2:03:47 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They are not “shear pin” in the way most people understand the term.

They are pins holding the pieces-parts together. They have a failure point (”shear”), like all things do, like rivets and such, but the pins are not designed to fail upon a crash/hard landing. They use pins because of engine changes and deport maintenance.

At what point are you going to design the pin to shear?

How many longitudinal G’s?

How many transverse G’s?

How about speed? Taxi speed when the jet depart the runway and goes into the dirt and gear fails at 50kts in the mud, will it fail then?

Anyway, got to start the BBQ.

See ya.


369 posted on 07/06/2013 2:03:55 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: tcrlaf

“Again, did someone forget to reset the altimeter to San Fransisco conditions?”

For a visual landing? Clear weather.


370 posted on 07/06/2013 2:04:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: XHogPilot

My sister is listening to KFI in LA, where a caller claiming to be a commercial pilot said ILS is turned off as a cost-savings due to the sequester. Anything to this?


371 posted on 07/06/2013 2:04:41 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: ransomnote

“I am astonished that some people must write things like that.”

So am I. Stupidity and callousness in this country are getting worse by the second. The idiot cannot even spell!


372 posted on 07/06/2013 2:04:55 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Tzfat

Thanks. Good info. I’m not a pilot. duh.


373 posted on 07/06/2013 2:05:09 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Well, you’re the first one to bring it up.

Lets think about this logically. If a terrorist was going to blow up this plane, would they do it when it landed? Or over the Pacific Ocean?

I hate that EVERYTHING that happens now, terrorism is everyone’s first thought. We sound like whiny little girls jumping at shadows. Sometimes planes just crash.


374 posted on 07/06/2013 2:05:12 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Procyon

Except parts have serial numbers and no reputable parts dealer or aircraft operator or OEM will ever use those parts again.

I am gone. See ya. . .


375 posted on 07/06/2013 2:06:14 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: diogenes ghost

I am sure the pilot will be fired and sued for landing the plane a little short. Asiana is gonna get sued big time.


376 posted on 07/06/2013 2:06:27 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Drango

I had the same impression. Landing appears to have been offset vertically and horizontally. It wasn’t that far off for the aircraft to have remained so intact. Looks like it was off 3m vertically, but it reportedly landed on the wrong runway.

Incredibly short stopping distance. I’m surprised the passengers could make it out after the shock impact.


377 posted on 07/06/2013 2:07:31 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: XHogPilot

“. It is likely the Asian attempted to use the (inop) ILS and hit well short of the intended touchdown point.”

It is unlikely, not likely. Too much communications about approach for that to happen.


378 posted on 07/06/2013 2:07:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: carriage_hill

Man, that’s strange. I wonder if the turbine blades failed on impact and caused the rest of the engine to disintegrate, but it was at a low power setting and that seems unlikely. I don’t get it. But there are a whole bunch of small pieces out there.


379 posted on 07/06/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

Makes me want to go back to the J-3, 12 gallon fuel tank, 65hp engine.


380 posted on 07/06/2013 2:08:47 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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