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Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 1, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; sanford; skittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: ModelBreaker
Have an upholstered gun when the police show up.

Wonder if they will have you recover their car seats?


1,461 posted on 07/01/2013 5:08:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: onyx

I might try that. Finger scrubbing doesn't seem to do much good.

1,462 posted on 07/01/2013 5:08:27 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: snarkytart; RummyChick

she is scary. I’m a chick and she’s driving me nuts. It’s incessant.


1,463 posted on 07/01/2013 5:10:53 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: jiggyboy
"...and that gold one looked like a man’s Rolex."

Maybe she's a man, baby!

*snicker*

1,464 posted on 07/01/2013 5:12:23 PM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: XenaLee

Just had to turn off Nancy Grace.
yes, some women are nuts.


1,465 posted on 07/01/2013 5:12:35 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: RummyChick

Uh, those lawyers aren’t getting paid to represent GZ. It’s their opinion. If they were getting paid, they’d sing a different tune. Why didn’t St Skittles call the police? Why didn’t St Skittles run away from a fight? It was just as much responsibility for the thug to avoid the fight. All your spouting off about getting out of the vehicle is BS. Unless GZ is waving a gun in the car, or after getting out of the car waving a gun at St Skittles, your line of thought is irrelevant to the claim of self defense. GZ has the legal right to exit his vehicle. He’s committed no crime.


1,466 posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:09 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: UCANSEE2
If it's any consolation, I knew your original post was sarcasm. To me, it dripped with it. You were mocking a foregone conclusion that was a non sequitur to the facts.

-PJ

1,467 posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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“Our position has always been that there’s something going on in the Sanford Police Department,” said Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon’s family. “All of this is window dressing. What’s important is George Zimmerman’s statements, which are inconsistent and factually impossible.”

Serino, a 15-year veteran of the department who was a major-crimes investigator, was demoted last month to overnight patrol. Tapes of his interviews with Zimmerman show him poking holes in the former neighborhood watch volunteer’s account of what happened the night he killed Trayvon. Serino told the FBI that Zimmerman had a “little hero complex” and sounded “scripted.” However, he said he believed Zimmerman targeted Trayvon because of his attire, the circumstances and recent burglaries in the area, not the color of the teen’s skin.

In his FBI interview, Serino accused Sgt. Barnes of being “friendly” with Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father. He said Tracy Martin at first understood why no charges were filed, but later changed coursse and accused Zimmerman of racial profiling.

Crump denied that Tracy Martin ever changed postures. Martin, he said, sought legal counsel the very day Serino told him no charges would be filed.

Records released Thursday show that Sgt. Barnes, a 25-year veteran of the department, told the FBI that he believed the black community would be “in an uproar” if Zimmerman was not charged. “The community will be satisfied if an arrest takes place,” the FBI quoted him saying. Barnes “felt the shooting was not racially motivated, but it was a man shooting an unarmed kid.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510/more-evidence-released-in-zimmerman.html#storylink=cpy


1,468 posted on 07/01/2013 5:18:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Jeff Winston

Oh yes. I forgot. The NSA probably does have a 3 second delay on his phone!

But they don’t on mine... Not even from Shanghai


1,469 posted on 07/01/2013 5:18:17 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
That's the big problem with women...and I am one...they get stuck on one item and ignore the big picture.

He was neighborhood watch. It's what they do. And he was trying to furnish info which he couldn't do from his truck so he wouldn't be wasting the cops time.

Tray played cat and mouse in order to confront GZ instead of going home.

1,470 posted on 07/01/2013 5:19:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

Very interesting UC. Thanks for sharing.


1,471 posted on 07/01/2013 5:20:50 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Uncle Chip
Why isn't everyone questioning the financial gain of the Martins and Crump? No case, no MONEY!

That's why they created all this fictitious crap!

Follow the money!!!!

1,472 posted on 07/01/2013 5:27:00 PM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: Kansas58

Oh Lord. Can’t stomach that one.


1,473 posted on 07/01/2013 5:30:16 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: longtermmemmory
...public means “domesticated” streets which allows police to enforce traffic infractions.

Not sure what domesticated means, but it is my understanding and experience in VA back in the day as a cop that police can enforce state laws on any highway (meaning neighborhood roads too) which are paid for/maintained by the gov - local/state/fed. The only exceptions were, if I recall (and I am getting long in the tooth) reckless driving and DWI/DUI.

We had many private communities that had to put a letter on file with the local court authorizing PD to enforce traffic code on their private roadways.

Not trying to pound my fist and say this is gospel....just what I was raised on...someone else might have a different answer from another state.

1,474 posted on 07/01/2013 5:37:24 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Excuse me...Here's your nose. I found it in my business....agian!)
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To: Sacajaweau

One thing that some folks can’t comprehend or get through their skulls is....a Neighborhood Watch job is different for different types of neighborhoods. My ex was temporarily our ‘watchperson’ in our neighborhood years back in Houston. But all he did was patrol up and down the streets in his truck, looking for suspicious activity.

IOW, in a non-gated neighborhood, the watchperson could and should stay in their truck/auto most, if not all, of the time...since that is the only thing they can do is drive up and down the streets.

In a gated condo community, however, the job is or can be much more pro-active as far as the necessity of getting out of your vehicle and observing in and around the housing units. Zimmerman was just doing the job thoroughly. Who knew he would encounter a teenage thug with a chip on his shoulder and already a record of getting into trouble and drugs.


1,475 posted on 07/01/2013 5:37:28 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Tray could have been home 10 times...He came back and circled GZ’s truck...doesn’t fit Jenteal’s statement that Tray was scared and that he should run.


1,476 posted on 07/01/2013 5:38:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: XenaLee

Our neighborhood watches around here are ALL on foot.


1,477 posted on 07/01/2013 5:39:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: cuban leaf
For starters, liberals tend to think man is basically good and just needs to be given the opportunity to prove it. Meanwhile, conservatives tend to see man as basically evil (all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God) and must be challenged to do the right thing.

Liberals think that liberals are basically good and just need a chance to prove it, but that conservatives are basically evil. As for myself, I subscribe to the idea that people are not inherently good nor evil so much as they are human. I think most people aspire to be good, but some of them--especially those infested by Liberal Mind Fog--are severely confused as to what that means, and many of them can be readily tempted into doing things they know are wrong. Personally, I regard sinfulness and evil as being two very different concepts, with sinfulness being indifference to God's will, and evil being deliberately contrary to it. Most people are far more sinful than they are evil, but there are some definite exceptions.

1,478 posted on 07/01/2013 5:43:39 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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What did everyone think of the cop saying from the stand, in the final minutes of the trial today, that Zimmerman said “Thank God” when told (falsely) that someone had recorded the entire event?

Cops are allowed to lie. I have been on the receiving end, when I held a government position, and a crime was being investigated in my department. I was LIED to by the cops, who told me that others had already said I was in on an illegal scheme. I said, “I don’t care who told you, they are liars, and I will go to jail proudly before I ever admit to anything I did not do.” The interrogators looked at each other and let me go.

In this case? The cop was trying to get Zimmerman to crack. Instead, Zimmerman KNEW he was in the right, and said, “thank God” when told of a video which does not exist.


1,479 posted on 07/01/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: NautiNurse
"Prosecution just showed GZ social security number to the entire world. They should be fried for that."

And, his address.

I think he gave a witness address as well; maybe the one who dialed 911.

Zimmerman will probably need to go into witness relocation anyway. I cringed when I heard the SSN put out there. I'm not even sure LIFELOCK can help him now. Maybe they can assign one LIFELOCK employee to handle just his case!

Can he get a new SSN?

Didn't Obama get his SSN replaced a couple of times? (*snicker*)

1,480 posted on 07/01/2013 5:48:00 PM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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