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Is cursive writing dead?
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Posted on 06/28/2013 1:29:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

I was taught handwriting in school 70 years ago but what is cursive?


181 posted on 06/28/2013 2:46:40 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL+


182 posted on 06/28/2013 2:47:09 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Not any more. It used to be DD MONTH YEAR. Today would have been 28 Jun 13. A few years before I retired at the end of 2011, they went to the YYYY/MO/DD or today’s date would be 20130628. Took me a long time to change to that format.


183 posted on 06/28/2013 2:47:39 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: TigerClaws

“I see it as a way cut off future generations from learning
from past generations. All the letters and all the writings of our forefathers were written in cursive.”

Interesting theory. This sparked my interested in going and rereading parts of the Constitution by way of a scanned image to pay closer attention to the look of the writing. I never released there were corrections on the document — I’d always read it as a reprint.


184 posted on 06/28/2013 2:48:03 PM PDT by PlanToDisappear
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To: Alberta's Child

I love word processors. Spell check. Grammar and punctuation check. Control c, control x control v. Love, love, love it! So much better than a typewriter and no need for white out or a correction tape. No piles of crumpled paper with one error marring the entire page.

Yes, I learned the Palmer Method. Hated every second. I studied calligraphy as a part of an ad design course. Slightly better than cursive and more creative, but not something I would spend time doing unless required.

The old documents from the 18th century are full of those Germanic-looking letters that, for me, were always confusing. I can read them, but it is almost an act of translation at times. I get the idea of the connection formed when deciphering old script, but I think I tend more to see the entire page as a work of art. Typeface is better, for me, when I am reading for content.

Effort for its own sake could just as easily be applied to content as to form. Excessive care given to the handwritten form could just as likely stunt the expression of thought. I like putting thoughts into words, but I would rather spend the time honing the thoughts and polishing the language than tediously forming each letter or word. Sometimes, while writing, a thought occurs that needs to have been inserted prior. Pre-word processors, that meant re-writing/re-typing entire sections. Now, it means going to the correct spot and simply inserting the addition. It is one of the technological advances I would miss mightily if it were to disappear.

I took lecture notes in my own version of Speed Writing when I was in college. Part script, part printing, lots of diagramming, underlining, etc. It sufficed, but I also remember hand cramps and that funny callus on the outside of the little finger on my right hand. Typing notes as a study exercise also resulted in worse carpal tunnel symptoms than using my nice ergonomic keyboard.

I write stories and wrote poetry when younger. I think my thoughts flow unimpeded with a word processor and I can correct either on the fly or in a short time proof reading when I am finished.

Pretty handwriting is a nice accomplishment. Maybe it fosters disciplined thought. But it was, for me, IMO, a waste of time and effort.

I’ve read a lot of your posts and you write well because you know what you are talking about, you think about what you are saying and have the vocabulary and experiences to illustrate those thoughts. You may credit your having learned Palmer Method, but it is just as likely your own careful way of thought and communication. Certainly, you aren’t hand writing your FR posts!

The thing about Rachael is she can’t read at all, let alone write beyond a signature. She was primed to say *cursive*. She is undisciplined in thought, word and deed. She lives in a world that values appearance and attitude over substance and accomplishment, but she is far from unique in that. You could observe that she is an exemplar of the current age and many of us are obsolete relics. And that would unfortunately be correct.


185 posted on 06/28/2013 2:48:53 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: SatinDoll

I read somewhere that the complexity of the Chinese alphabet, where the characters are almost like painted images/calligraphy, causes their brains to work harder and increases intelligence. I don’t know if that’s been verified but it does make some sense to me.


186 posted on 06/28/2013 2:49:06 PM PDT by boxlunch (Deuteronomy 28,29,30)
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To: Cyman

“I was truly shocked she knew what the word cursive meant. Sort of like using the term niggardly.”

Maybe the prosectution had shown the letter to her and they talked about it. I bet the term cursive came up at that time.


187 posted on 06/28/2013 2:50:35 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Cuttnhorse
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LOL!

I know! I've been 29 for years......

188 posted on 06/28/2013 2:52:16 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: FredZarguna

Well, at the time you were going through 3rd grade, I wasn’t even born yet!


189 posted on 06/28/2013 2:53:08 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: Irenic
That's why, even though Kindle books are so handy, I continue to collect original source document collections and classic books in hard copies. I just keep thinking that someday my family or descendants will be grateful. Even if I don't have time to read them all, : ). I just want to have a library to pass down to my kids and grandkids. The monks kept a lot of books safe during the anarchy of the fall of the Roman Empire. We may be called on to do the same. How the Irish Saved Civilization
190 posted on 06/28/2013 2:54:39 PM PDT by boxlunch (Deuteronomy 28,29,30)
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To: re_nortex

The problem with that is that the LIV’s will think that state bordering Alabama to the east is “Mifsifsippi.”


191 posted on 06/28/2013 2:55:05 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: TigerClaws

I haven’t written in cursive in many years. Not that I don’t want to ... I just never could write neatly.


192 posted on 06/28/2013 2:55:26 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Arrowhead1952
"A few years before I retired at the end of 2011, they went to the YYYY/MO/DD or today’s date would be 20130628."

I did not know that. We just had either the abbreviated date: 28JUN13

The full date: 28 June 2013

Or a standard DTG: 16:55 28JUN13

193 posted on 06/28/2013 2:55:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: bigbob

My left-handed scrawl can be legible most of the time. At a former place of employment in TV world, I had a pointy-haired good ole boy boss who loved spreadsheets and written technical evaluation forms.

Towards the end of my time there I got so burned out that I let my handwriting go and just scribbled. The binders that held them got so full since he or his chief minion gave up on them but my stuff checked.

That was just one thing I did to show how meaningless most of his pet theories and procedures were meaningless. From what I hear he hasn’t changed and is still in love with meaningless forms and reports.


194 posted on 06/28/2013 2:57:07 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: kearnyirish2
I used to teach people in prison to read [I was not in prison myself.] It's shocking how many convicts can't read. [Or not.]

I knew one other adult who could not read. He was VERY good at hiding the fact.

195 posted on 06/28/2013 2:57:59 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: boxlunch

hear, hear!


196 posted on 06/28/2013 2:59:38 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Original sub-thread:

I learned cursive in the third grade. That was 1964.....

Same for me, except I finished third grade in 1977.

The exchange led me to wonder why you did not finish third grade for 13 years.

197 posted on 06/28/2013 3:00:14 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: boxlunch
You know, you could really be on to something. Can these Kindle books auto-update? If not, I'll bet they will in the near future. Changing a few words here and there a little at a time. Pretty soon, the "book" won't resemble its original form. What a great way to re-teach the masses so they will be one large compliant populace.

Having the hard copy books may become illegal (contraband, ya' know!).

198 posted on 06/28/2013 3:00:35 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: TigerClaws

What is it?

I never have seen or heard the word in my life until yesterday here on FR and I was taught handwriting in school 70 years ago and still use it daily.


199 posted on 06/28/2013 3:01:12 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: discostu

It’s worthless. Especially in a modern world where pen and paper barely meet in the first place, no reason to have two different types of hand writing. One, one that more closely matches the printed word, suffices just fine. It’s very high on the list of things I learned in school that I never used once I got out, and only used in school when forced.


“It’s worthless”

Wow that is a matter of opinion. Let me offer a contrasting opinion.

I think it would be sad to have future generations unable to READ the founding father’s documents—is that part of the agenda? If they can’t write it, will they be able to read it? Will history literally be rewritten as students cannot read the original documents?

I was a fairly fast typist...75-85 wpm, and that skill landed me numerous lucrative office positions during college and beyond.

I studied programming in college and used a lot of print in coding. However, today I still use both printing and cursive....cursive, tho not as fast typing, is much faster than printing.

You say there is no reason to have have 2 different types of handwriting, well printing is not handwriting....you learn to print first —it goes hand-in-hand with reading...then students learn to write in cursive.

I think it is sad that since a witness on a public trial cannot read cursive, the national argument against cursive is heating up and people are pulling for the dumbing down of society... Let’s skip teaching grammar and spelling, too, as we can just use spell-check on our computers, and we are moving to email and texting society where people use abbreviations such as “BTW, OMG, IMHO, TTYL,” etc.


200 posted on 06/28/2013 3:02:24 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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