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Experts: 'Treason' a Tough Sell in Edward Snowden Case
politico.com ^ | 6/13/13 | LEIGH MUNSIL

Posted on 06/13/2013 5:05:24 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: BerryDingle

There’s no mention of “security clearances” or “oath” in the definition of treason posted above. There can be no question that many in the House and Senate since 2001 have given aid and comfort to the enemy with their words, actions, and inactions on various bills passed and defeated over the years. The matter of “adheres to their enemies” is apparently the threshold they haven’t crossed in as obvious a way.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 7:15:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TomGuy

“...Throw a rock over a fence into a pig pen and the pig that squeals the loudest is the one who got hit...”

Seriously, THE best description of Washington DC I have seen in a long time. Excellent.

Hat tip to you, brother.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 8:35:14 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: trebb
I guess the Founders were also guilty of treason then.

Oh, the founding fathers of USA were most definitely guilty of treason against their lawful government, each and every one of them liable to hang had they failed. The Only reason they got away with it was that they succeeded, thus fulfilling the old epigram:

Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
--Sir John Harington, Of Treason--Epigrams (bk. IV, ep. V)

If a government gets out of control, it is the DUTY of the People to resist it. Like the guy or hate him - he points out a government that oversteps.

Indeed. Whether Snowden is a hero or a traitor has no bearing on the (il)legitimacy of the NSA program he revealed.
23 posted on 06/13/2013 9:09:25 AM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Snowden is clearly lying, and now giving away our secrets to the Chinese. So yes, traitor fits.
24 posted on 06/13/2013 9:17:27 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Orangedog; cripplecreek

I don’t give two sh!ts about ‘terrorism’ (exactly because of the open borders, visas like candy, Boston, etc.).

What I DO care about, and nobody is singing the praises...is the total abuse of the 4th Amendment. Another law/department that COMPLETELY runs rough-shod, but because they can dress it up in lipstick, they think they can sell me the pig?!

Bastards, each and every one of them.


25 posted on 06/13/2013 9:29:56 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: cripplecreek

If the NSA is spying on people, Malkin and people like her would be high on the list. So, how many of these people who call Snowden a traitor are afraid of what the NSA knows about them?


26 posted on 06/13/2013 11:31:15 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: MirrorField
Indeed. Whether Snowden is a hero or a traitor has no bearing on the (il)legitimacy of the NSA program he revealed.

I agree with everything you said, BUT it is a program that the powers that be are using against the People and he merely corroborated what most of us already knew. Just because it's a law, doesn't make it legal. If it's illegal, then we really should know and the guy did us a favor. The same folks who claim it needed to remain secret because it "protects" us are those who ignored ample information and allowed the Boston bomber(s) free rein to do their damage.

27 posted on 06/13/2013 2:04:31 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TomGuy

Snowden was a unwilling player in a multi-year program by the Chinese to turn him. This guy was active in forums, and got very active in the last year or two with privacy of data and the government use of the data collected.

The timing of this is what ties Snowden to the Chinese....the week prior to the Palm Springs meeting with Obama.

It may take six months, but Snowden will eventually come around to realize that he was used, and I think his belief in all his efforts as helping liberty....will fall apart.


28 posted on 06/15/2013 8:26:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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