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Experts: 'Treason' a Tough Sell in Edward Snowden Case
politico.com ^ | 6/13/13 | LEIGH MUNSIL

Posted on 06/13/2013 5:05:24 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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It's not surprising at all that the same morons who ignore the fourth amendment also ignore the constitutional definition of treason.
1 posted on 06/13/2013 5:05:24 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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So when do we charge Leaky Leahy with treason? He actually told the enemy something he didn’t know.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 5:08:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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It's not surprising at all that the same morons who ignore the fourth amendment also ignore the constitutional definition of treason.

I guess the Founders were also guilty of treason then. If a government gets out of control, it is the DUTY of the People to resist it. Like the guy or hate him - he points out a government that oversteps.

3 posted on 06/13/2013 5:14:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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-"Constitutionally, treason is defined as “whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere.

So. Did Feinstein or Obama defined this to Major Nidal Malik Hasan

4 posted on 06/13/2013 5:18:13 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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Work place violence don’t you know!

Let me see, whom are we at war with right now? There is no terror war, we won according to the Pansy in Chief. I bet he is tieing himself into a prezel trying to worm his wormy way around that one.


5 posted on 06/13/2013 5:22:46 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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This administration charging anyone outside of it with treason is a joke; I would counter-sue.


6 posted on 06/13/2013 5:23:13 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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The saddest part is that so many usually smart people have gone full stupid on this issue.

Michelle Malkin was just jabbering about how the NSA is protecting us from terrorism. She knows its crap because we have a wide open border and a pro muslim immigration policies.


7 posted on 06/13/2013 5:24:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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> That’s a tough sell in Snowden’s case, legal experts say. “I do not believe it is treason,” said George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley. “There is nothing to suggest that his motivation was to assist our enemies or a foreign power.”

Because his motive had nothing to do with treason. He was trying to wake the American people up to what’s happening to their freedom and liberties.
As predicted we knew there’d be spin control. No, we don’t spy on the American people like “that”. We don’t monitor your phone calls, texts, emails, or credit transactions unless you get flagged for some reason. Right. Thats not what numerous articles and news reports have said about the Bluffdale facility. We knew they’d paint Snowden as a traitor and say he divulged national secrets to our enemies. You know I keep hearing this BS and they have never said what secrets or to which enemy. It’s BS; mindless political phrasing and posturing to paint him as an uneducated rogue element that intends to do harm to the federal government. If he’s so uneducated, why’d you hire him in the first place. Maybe because he had a pencil talent or gift that they could exploit and use to their benefit. BTW it doesnt appear that so many of the college educated are any more intelligent than their counterparts; they just have a hell of a large student loan to pay back nd no one will hire them. Meanwhile there are hackers that never attended college that can run circles around them on an intellectual level...


8 posted on 06/13/2013 5:26:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Something is not right about the Snowden affair.

But, when the MSM, the Dems and the GOPelite are all on the same page — calling Snowden a traitor, etc. — that stinks even more.

Regarding the Dems/GOPe, I get the impression that they are afraid, for personal reasons — perhaps offshore bank accounts, etc. — of what Snowden might release.

Throw a rock over a fence into a pig pen and the pig that squeals the loudest is the one who got hit.

There is a lot of squealing going on in Washington regard what Snowden might have.


9 posted on 06/13/2013 5:27:58 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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Because his motive had nothing to do with treason. He was trying to wake the American people up to what’s happening to their freedom and liberties.
As predicted we knew there’d be spin control. No, we don’t spy on the American people like “that”. We don’t monitor your phone calls, texts, emails, or credit transactions unless you get flagged for some reason. Right. Thats not what numerous articles and news reports have said about the Bluffdale facility. We knew they’d paint Snowden as a traitor and say he divulged national secrets to our enemies. You know I keep hearing this BS and they have never said what secrets or to which enemy. It’s BS; mindless political phrasing and posturing to paint him as an uneducated rogue element that intends to do harm to the federal government. If he’s so uneducated, why’d you hire him in the first place? Maybe because he had a particular talent or gift that they could exploit and use to their benefit? BTW it doesnt appear that so many of the college educated are any more intelligent than their counterparts; they just have a hell of a large student loan to pay back nd no one will hire them. Meanwhile there are hackers that never attended college that can run circles around them on an intellectual level...


10 posted on 06/13/2013 5:28:17 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Strange, they use Snowden and treason together like bread and butter while Zippy is supplying arms and money to al Qaeda.

But, we all know Christian American citzens are the "real" enemy.

11 posted on 06/13/2013 5:41:44 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Well he is now divulging spying on China and hacking operations and claims to have evidence he can release. No need to worry about legalities. Hire someone to find him and take him out.


12 posted on 06/13/2013 5:51:17 AM PDT by plain talk
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These same MF people who just approved John Kerry Secretary of State have the gall to call anyone a Traitor.

This same garbage that wants to give our country to illegals call someone else a traitor?

The tree of liberty needs watering.


13 posted on 06/13/2013 5:56:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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Michelle Malkin was just jabbering about how the NSA is protecting us from terrorism. She knows its crap because we have a wide open border and a pro muslim immigration policies

We're talking about an agency that is most likely recording and storing almost every phone conversation, text and email for review and use at anytime. Do you seriously think a lot of these people have not already been "enlisted" to subtly spin this story in a certain direction? Anyone who goes too far off script gets a stiff jerk on their chain to get them to heel. You think it was a coincidence that limbaugh got into legal trouble for oxys just days after he had dick cheney on his shoe and told him he was wrong on amnesty? You think it was a coincidence that he ran into the viagra at the airport problem not long after complainin on air that he was made to carry water for people who didn't desrve it right after the 2006 elections? The big media guys are the establishments bitches. Well paid bitches, but bitches nonetheless.

14 posted on 06/13/2013 5:57:14 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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Anyone who goes too far off script gets a stiff jerk on their chain to get them to heel.

Speaking of that, I saw Judge Napolitano cut off by a commercial on FOX this morning. It wasn't the tail end of a comment, it was the beginning of an answer the hosts (who are aware of commercial breaks) asked.
15 posted on 06/13/2013 6:02:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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So when do we charge Leaky Leahy with treason? He actually told the enemy something he didn’t know.

There is no basis to charge anyone from Congress or the Senate, they don't require security clearances once a "need to know" is established based on their function, so no former oath or signature of an oath was ever sworn for evidence, to "safeguard" our nations defense. Heck, you could put a foreigner in the Oval office with those prerequisites!

16 posted on 06/13/2013 6:02:16 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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We should be enraged at the pure cost of this alone.

NSA Leaker's Former Employer Makes $5.8 Billion Almost Entirely Off Taxpayers

That's one company of hundreds we're paying.
17 posted on 06/13/2013 6:10:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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What was the question? How much of the answer did he get out? I got rid of my cable tv years ago when (1 of many reasons) I came to see that the McNews channels were really little more than stenographers for the establishment. No critical thinking, no digging deeper, just repeating what bureaucrats and politicians tell them.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 6:12:26 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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I didn’t fully catch the question but it was an odd cutoff, enough so that it caught my attention.


19 posted on 06/13/2013 6:17:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Excellent comment and quite true.


20 posted on 06/13/2013 6:30:43 AM PDT by Luke21
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