Posted on 06/10/2013 4:36:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: I would describe this man as an American hero, as a person willing to risk life, limb and liberty in order to expose to the American people one of the most extraordinary violations of the American principles, value judgments and the Constitution itself in all of our history.
A person so familiar with the intelligence community, as you just heard from the excerpts that you just played. He's aware of the personal danger to himself. He knows of the likelihood of prosecution. But he also understands that the government listening to half the country is not what was bargained for when statues were enacted in the days and weeks after 9/11...
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You mean OSHA ~ FEMA simply spends money. OSHA spends your money!
So very true. Somebody changed the rules and Americans need to demand to know who that was.
I’m curious. I don’t see this guy as a hero; but how was it “wrong” to go to the press?
Those days are over ~ but we have a backup approach for you people ~ thermonuclear warfare conducted such that the Middle East can continue providing gas and oil, but with no people!
Do you think you'd like that?
If you prefer a country that fails to use the best possible surveillance technology to keep track of foreign enemies
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Are you lumping spying on private citizens without cause into that category?
The spying part is directed at enemy aliens and foreigners. Frankly, no one cares if you guys are spied on.
He broke the law in disclosing classified material through other than whistleblower means. That was wrong.
He exposed an abuse of power, the scope of which we haven’t seen before. That was right.
Legally, he should’ve sought whistleblower status. So I meant wrong in the legal sense not in the moral sense.
Disposable communications is lesson 101 in terror cell operations. Fake ID the dimwit at Best Buy. Use the phone for a week or two, and dump it or sell it to some punk kid.
The spying part is directed at enemy aliens and foreigners. Frankly, no one cares if you guys are spied on.
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and you know this how?
There is no evidence that “they” dumped him.
When your pay hits the top of the scale, it is quite common to join a consulting firm, take on a new (or the same) assignment and have the firm bill your time as an expense in a cost-plus contract.
People in SigInt IT with active clearances are paid a lot.
So when NSA analysts admit (which they have) using their power to spy on citizens they hold grudges against,,,and
when NSA analysts admit (which they have) listening in on phone calls/phone sex between soldiers in Iraq and their loved ones back home,,you want to say the NSA is merely gleaning foreign ‘enemy’ information?
Really. I’d like to see you prove that. The situations I just mentioned actually have been admitted to by NSA.
Here’s what the government has obtained, and MUCH MORE more (let your imagination run wild):
A GUN REGISTRY
A list of all gun owners and everything they say, think, do and buy
A list of all pro-lifers and everything they say, think, do and buy
A list of all conservative groups
A list of where all meet and when
A list of EVERY SINGLE COMMUNICATION between any of them,
all their financial transactions
all the websites they visit
everything they say on a conservative forum
everything about their kids
where they go
what they do
when their kids go to school and what time they get home from band practice...
EVERYTHING.
ETC ETC ETC INFINITY
Oh, you say it takes a SEARCH WARRANT to see all this??? HAHAHA Ok, sure. I’ll play along.
(We’ll pretend the last few weeks of IRS abuses weren’t exposed to us).
Who do you think APPOINTS the judges that approve the warrants?
It was a judge who authorized the AP surveillance of 20 phones and 100 journalists...for no good reason.
Think that won’t happen to the Tea Party, etc?
GET REAL my friend.
And by the way, we are one Supreme Court Justice away from outlawing the Fourth Amendment all together.
You truly think that little piece of paper will protect us from the greatest temptation to totalitarian power this world has ever known?
If so, you’re sure a trusting soul. Just look at that little piece of paper called the Constitution if you believe that.
The “classified information” appears to be that the government was directly violating the 4th amendment and spying on US Citizens without any legitimate reason.
I wouldn’t agree that, just because the government decides to conceal its criminal activities behind “classification”, a citizen is under any obligation to respect that.
He made donations to Ron Paul. Not a good sign.
He was canned ~
Ok. I get this. Thank you for clarifying.
I admit, that mix of names makes it tough for me to pigeon hole. I'd have described those as little government, big government, big government, big government. So I can see the last two. I'll just attribute Michael Moore as just being a contrarian jerk (voila!).
Geez. Who cares what Michael Bolton thinks about this? Shut up and sing, Bolton!
He went overseas because if he tried to go the American press, not only would it never be reported on, he and potentially his family would be dead in a matter of hours.
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