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Most Americans back NSA tracking phone records, prioritize probes over privacy
Washington Post ^ | 06/10/2013 | Jon Cohen

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

A large majority of Americans say the federal government should focus on investigating possible terrorist threats even if personal privacy is compromised, and most support the blanket tracking of telephone records in an effort to uncover terrorist activity, according to a new Washington Post-Pew Research Center poll.

Fully 45 percent of all Americans say the government should be able to go further than it is, saying that it should be able to monitor everyone’s online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks. A slender majority, 52 percent, say no such broad-based monitoring should occur.

The new survey comes amid recent revelations of the National Security Agency’s extensive collection of telecommunications data to facilitate terrorism investigations.

Overall, 56 percent of Americans consider the NSA accessing telephone call records of millions of Americans through secret court orders “acceptable,” while 41 percent call the practice “unacceptable.”...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bs; compost; nsa; obama; poll; wiretap
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

then they’re friggin idiots because one with a a 4th amendment and second instead of attacking the leaker then maybe they should attack a Govt spying on us all and getting an enemy list.

Oh yea it’s to save us all from terrorists, stupid party and the Dems want their own power and tell people we’re trying to keep you safe crap.

As for going to court then that is plain a cop out as when the govt goes to court then the court only hears one side and judges placed by who?

It’s a talking point by elitist by the stupid party and the Dem party who think all of us are stupid


81 posted on 06/10/2013 7:13:47 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Gene Eric
Some statements from the NSA must make your efforts to defend them difficult:

Emmel, the NSA spokeswoman, told the Guardian: "Current technology simply does not permit us to positively identify all of the persons or locations associated with a given communication (for example, it may be possible to say with certainty that a communication traversed a particular path within the internet. It is harder to know the ultimate source or destination, or more particularly the identity of the person represented by the TO:, FROM: or CC: field of an e-mail address or the abstraction of an IP address).

Source

Basically the NSA is arguing that since they can't be 100% sure of the actual person reading email addressed to that person, then they aren't invading the privacy of that person. Such an argument would be laughed at in any court of law.

82 posted on 06/10/2013 7:39:51 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

There are no doubt plenty of areas that require attention and correction. I will not vilify the NSA, however — which is not to say I’m endorsing the exposure of privacy.

The threats exist. They must be identified. Something should be done to isolate identities requiring warrants for exposure. Since Congress is a complete failure on this matter, a private sector consortium should be established to help balance the concerns of privacy with security.


83 posted on 06/10/2013 8:10:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
It's a Pew poll, that's all you need to know. They've been very open in the past about producing fraudulent polling to drive certain issues, so thye have little credibility.
84 posted on 06/10/2013 8:13:14 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Alaska Wolf

PETA, Artsy craftsy liberals, Buddhist converts in the USA, yeah, Obambots.


85 posted on 06/10/2013 8:22:24 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
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86 posted on 06/10/2013 8:22:38 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Pew should have personalized this poll and asked these individuals polled if they would give the govt the key to their house key, access to personal and legal files and passwords to their technology to prevent potential terrorism.
I’m sure the numbers will be the same/s


87 posted on 06/10/2013 9:34:09 PM PDT by RginTN
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polls are worthless and easily fixed by having leading questions


88 posted on 06/11/2013 4:29:09 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>>I wonder where their sample came from?

From among the McSheeple whose phone rang whilst hanging on the cliff to see who wins American Idolatry and Danzing vit Der Starz in between commercials for Viagra, Sleeping Pills, and Depends?


89 posted on 06/11/2013 5:41:41 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: jimjohn

[We built this network AND we can tear it down and build another one that’ll leave you spooks playing pacman to avoid dying of bordem! The net only stays up because, well... we’re nice people.]

 


90 posted on 06/11/2013 5:46:56 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Gene Eric
There is certainly an important and legitimate role for intelligence gathering. However it appears the NSA has gone beyond the type of data collection which is appropriate, and that is likely in the long run to damage our security more than the value of the information they sought to gather.

The point of my post was to show exactly how bad the situation is. If the NSA is sending out spokespeople who think that the public will buy the idea that even though they have the IP addresses, From: and To: fields of an email they don't know the identity of the parties, they have deeply flawed thinking. Telling lies to the electorate won't save their budget.

91 posted on 06/11/2013 5:51:55 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Fai Mao

Sorry NSA, I don’t believe your poll.

Ricin
Bomb
Manhattan


92 posted on 06/11/2013 8:16:39 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It is time we realize that pollsters are just as susceptible to fraud, blackmail, corruption and payoffs as journalists are, which is what REALLY needs to be investigated before this country can begin to move forward.


93 posted on 06/11/2013 8:23:01 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A nation of


94 posted on 06/11/2013 9:03:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: ScottinVA

Sorry... didn’t realize how large that pic would come out.


95 posted on 06/11/2013 9:04:30 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Interesting that all this data collection in the interest of National Security did not stop the Boston Marathon bombing.


96 posted on 06/11/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: VerySadAmerican
Believe it. Look at all the NEOconservatives who say Snowden should be arrested and prosecuted.

Mikey Medved was madder than a wet henhawk yesterday. David Brooks is his predictable fascist self. I can just imagine what the ladies @ WEEKLY STANDARD are saying. But, I don't hear a lot of mainstream conservatives siding with the state.

This is a pretty good litmus test. And a good opportunity to bury Bushism once and for all.

97 posted on 06/11/2013 9:35:30 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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