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Fracturing in California - Democrats revolt against a ban on oil and gas 'fracking.'
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 7, 2013 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 06/08/2013 11:37:15 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/08/2013 11:37:15 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Steve Van Doorn; Syncro; ProtectOurFreedom; vrwc1; Citizen James; abigail2; ...

What the heck ping, but in the idiom of a grunt.


2 posted on 06/08/2013 11:42:41 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem
The votes for the fracking ban came mainly from the wealthy, mostly white Democratic coastal districts—San Francisco, Santa Monica and Malibu.

In short, the limousine liberals with their holier than thou (if that's the right phrase to use!) attitude. Sorry, with the high price of gasoline here in California, anything that will send the price higher won't cut it with voters. Does anyone remember the movie Promised Land starring Matt Damon, which proved not only to be a box-office failure but was rightfully denounced for its innumerable inaccuracies?

3 posted on 06/08/2013 11:48:50 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: neverdem

This is great news! My sister inherited land from Dad that has natural gas under it, in Kings County CA.

We were afraid the enviro-weenies were going to successfully try and stop fracking.

The American Land Conservancy has been trying to buy those parcels. I suspect for a land swap involving the BLM, as in Nevada 20-years ago, the one that involved Sen.Harry Reid.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 11:52:28 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: neverdem
Wow good news, Frack, Baby, Frack!

I'd love to also see those beautiful pumping stations that can be looked at off shore from the beach putting out that good old Black Gold again!

The environmentalists should be behind that as it would take the pressure off and we wouldn't have those tar balls (from oil oozing out the ocean floor) messing up the pretty beaches anymore.

If true blue (red white and) Patriotic Americans ever get the reins again here in California we will indeed be the Golden State again.

5 posted on 06/09/2013 12:21:26 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: Syncro

DRILL BABY DRILL... is now FRACK BABY FRACK!!!


6 posted on 06/09/2013 12:30:21 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: SatinDoll

I hope that all works out for the family.

Several states are talking about selling government owned land to the citizens (Nevada for one, the gov owns most of thT state), that would be a real boon here in California.

Your sister needs to keep watch so the enviroWACKOS don’t dump a pail of water on her land and declare it a wetland!


7 posted on 06/09/2013 12:34:14 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: antceecee

Oh yea You Betcha!


8 posted on 06/09/2013 12:39:22 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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Can you hire a rig (just drilling for water.....)

Oh My.....they went a bit too deep.....and struck oil instead.

9 posted on 06/09/2013 12:41:38 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave

Now there is an idea, oops struck oil...

Heh, reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillies, “bubblin’ crude”


10 posted on 06/09/2013 1:01:15 AM PDT by Syncro ("So?")
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To: SatinDoll

Who owns the mineral rights?


11 posted on 06/09/2013 1:02:49 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

My sister now does. This land has been in the family for over a century.


12 posted on 06/09/2013 2:51:20 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Good luck to her.

Most real estate transactions now-a-days don’t convey mineral rights. It’s good that your family has owned it for so long.
That’s a real treasure.


13 posted on 06/09/2013 3:31:47 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: antceecee
FRACK BABY FRACK!!!

Sounds like the title of a BattleStar Galactica Episode...

14 posted on 06/09/2013 4:25:46 AM PDT by NELSON111
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"Who owns the mineral rights?"

As the article points out, they are talking about the Monterray Shale, of which, a large part of it is split estate. The surface rights are privately owned and the subsurface rights or mineral rights are owned by the BLM.

Obama's Interior Dept first auctioned a smaller portion of these BLM subsurface rights in 2011 and then a larger portion in Dec 2012.

When it comes to drilling in a split estate, the surface owners don't receive royalties so they usually oppose drilling.

Whereas SatinDoll's sister owns both the surface and sub-surface rights, there are going to be a landowners opposed to this drilling because they have to suffer the activity of drilling but won't receive a royalty. NIMBYs.

The sister's land is probably not covered by this activity thus far, but a oil company land man could approach her in the future about a drilling lease. It is always a good idea to talk to a lawyer first.

15 posted on 06/09/2013 4:52:38 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: neverdem
....about one-third of the active wells now use this innovative drilling process that uses chemicals, sand and water to crack shale rock.

What are the chemicals used and are the same chemicals used at every frack site?

I'm a 'drill baby drill' kinda guy, just curious.

16 posted on 06/09/2013 5:39:22 AM PDT by Vinnie
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The days of Jed Clampett’s easy oil, Spindletop, etc, were long gone decades ago.


17 posted on 06/09/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: neverdem

Good news for California. This was sanity prevailing in the form of raw self interest, which is about as close to enlightened as Democrats get. I will say that a part of me (probably the bad part) wouldn’t have minded seeing Cali pass the ban thereby hastening its slide into liberal dystopia. Now they’ll have a thriving energy sector propping things up.


18 posted on 06/09/2013 6:16:23 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Vinnie

A couple good introduction on the subject.

http://www.halliburton.com/public/projects/pubsdata/hydraulic_fracturing/fracturing_101.html

http://fracfocus.org/hydraulic-fracturing-process


19 posted on 06/09/2013 6:16:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: neverdem

I guess the people who profit from the fracking can buy a Democrat.


20 posted on 06/09/2013 6:19:00 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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