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Gee...do you think that "secretly" reverting back to only calling landlines might result in underrepresenting Obama-phone minority voters and the young?
1 posted on 06/05/2013 11:45:14 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I hope folks that claim polls are always so accurate, keep this article handy.

I think polls are purposefully gamed for political advantage.


2 posted on 06/05/2013 11:48:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: Seizethecarp

It also oversampled gay voters ~


3 posted on 06/05/2013 11:48:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Given what we are finding out about the IRS...there is a serious question of voter suppression on the part of the administration’s bureaucracy.

You know how the Dems kept complaining about GOP “suppression” of blacks and Hispanics...we now know they were projecting. Saying we were doing what they had planned to do all along.


4 posted on 06/05/2013 11:49:54 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Seizethecarp

100+% voter turnout out voting 98.9% for Obama might have had something to do with it.

Voter suppression might’ve had something to do with it.

Media rigged debates where the “moderators” lie on behalf of Obama might’ve had something to do with it.

But no, clearly Obama has a man-date.


5 posted on 06/05/2013 11:50:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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They didn’t factor in the 148% voter turnout in Wood County and 108% turnout in Cuyahoga County in Ohio? Huh? Or that the voter fraud in the U.S. was rampant? Huh?


6 posted on 06/05/2013 11:50:42 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama stole the election.
Someone once commented: First watch 8 minutes 16 seconds of video titled Romney defeated Obama - if not for voter fraud.

Then ... read and think about this.
7 posted on 06/05/2013 11:51:00 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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What went wrong in 2012? Philadelphia, Chicago, NY City, Milwaukee, Camden.

Between people voting twice and the dead getting a vote, it was surprising Romney got that close.

We should purge voter rolls every 10 years and have people reapply. Guarantee that Democrats will never win another national election.


8 posted on 06/05/2013 11:51:46 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Seizethecarp

“We made a mistake. We need to ‘move on’ and we promise to ‘fix’ it in the future. “


9 posted on 06/05/2013 11:52:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Seizethecarp
Gallup was wrong because they were unaware of the Ubama administration's use of the IRS to suppress conservative turnout.
11 posted on 06/05/2013 11:56:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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"Gallup’s final pre-election polls overrepresented voters in regions where Romney performed better."

Also, Gallup’s final pre-election polls underrepresented voters in regions where Obama performed much better, like Chicago and other big-city cemeteries, and in Demonrat-controlled precincts where Traitorobamanites were given multiple ballots or the voting machines were rigged to record only Demonrat votes.

13 posted on 06/05/2013 11:57:21 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Seizethecarp

It very hard to interview (poll) dead voters,


14 posted on 06/05/2013 12:02:14 PM PDT by Phyto Chems (Protect the border, NOW. The government needs to do one thing FIRST - CLOSE the Border)
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We lost because Romney was a mealy mouthed RINO like Dole, Bush I, McCain, and others like him! I assume we’re going to lose all future elections to the socialist-minority-single mom, welfare-sucking super coalition. Let’s lose in style and nominate a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul or Allen West!


16 posted on 06/05/2013 12:06:40 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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"Gallup explains what went wrong in 2012"

It's actually very simple. Because of the economy, and overall disenchantment with Obama, turnout was forecast to be significantly lower in '12 than in '08. Surveys revealed the dissatisfaction to be lower across the board, including inner city blacks.

Said disenchantment was reflected in the turnout across the board, EXCEPT for inner city blacks. The turnout for inner city blacks was slightly higher overall than in '08. Had turnout tracked with the lack of satisfaction, as it always has in prior years, Romney would have won a narrow 51-49 victory and carried those critical states like Ohio, Virginia, and others.

How else can you explain why Obama won a 51-48 margin, and held onto the Senate, while the House of Representatives remained overwhelmingly GOP? Because huge margins in the handful of inner city districts can carry state elections, including the Presidential election, but not local elections. The GOP had only 47% of the popular vote for the House but won 53% of the seats.

We lost a turnout game, pure and simple. The Obama team dragged inner city blacks to the polls. Sure, they also did their share of ballot box stuffing and dead people voting, but that won't delivery more than 0.5% of the votes statewide.

At the same time, the constituencies that we hold dear -- did nothing similar. We should have been dragging dispirited evangelical Christians to the polls in the suburbs, along with rural whites and others. But the GOP had its typical laissez-faire approach and, therefore, we lost.

18 posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:58 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Seizethecarp

They forgot to account for massive fraud, felonies, and assorted ethical and moral lapses on the part of the libturds.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 12:43:40 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Seizethecarp

“2. Too many whites “

Yeh too many whites sat home.


23 posted on 06/05/2013 12:50:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Seizethecarp

One cannot poll a stolen election.

LLS


27 posted on 06/05/2013 1:40:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Excuses, excuses Romney lost because he wasn’t Conservative enough.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 5:15:49 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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2. Too many whites

Gallup’s pre-election surveys contained too many whites among the base sample of American adults and too few Hispanics and African Americans, a bias that had the potential for great impact given deep racial voting divisions.


This one is of particular concern, given that 2012 might have been a racial-turnout anomaly involving the reelection of a Black President.

Gallup and other polling organizations are going to have to take a guess as to whether the exceptionally high turnout of Blacks is going to persist for future elections, both Presidentials and mid-terms. We might see - likely will see - an overcompensation in future polls that oversamples Blacks relative to actual election day turnout. Skewing pre-election numbers in favor of Democrats.
29 posted on 06/06/2013 5:36:22 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Seizethecarp

They undersampled the dead, and oversampled the informed.


34 posted on 06/09/2013 8:04:01 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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