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'All in the Family' star Jean Stapleton dies at 90
Chicago Tribune ^ | 06/01/2013 | Claudia Luther

Posted on 06/01/2013 1:21:54 PM PDT by Monty22002

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To: ansel12

Obviously everyone on this thread except you has positive memories of it. Lear’s goals back then were to make people laugh. The politics came later. Besides its not like Rob Reiner’s character came off as all that admirable. Let me guess, you think that Dr Strangelove and Its a Wonderful Life were propagdant too? If you dig deep enough online you can find people who do.


41 posted on 06/01/2013 2:10:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Monty22002

Great actress!

Rest In Peace, Edith Bunker!


42 posted on 06/01/2013 2:15:37 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Monty22002

not one ounce of any thing bad in her, her husband;s and her children’s lives....just good people....RIP Mrs Stapelton


43 posted on 06/01/2013 2:17:32 PM PDT by advertising guy (golf in june in Phoenix ? it's so dry, our gators use Gold Bond)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
They played up Archie as the evil conservative bigot.

Remember that he wasn't truly "evil", he always redeemed himself by slowly accepting each and every liberal view to some degree.

"""All in the Family" explored racism, homosexuality, women's liberation, menopause, impotence, the Vietnam War and the loss of faith.""

""Though he was a bigot, Lear said, Archie wasn't a bad man. Archie's opinions softened and audiences got to see the man behind the bluster as the series progressed. Archie, Lear said, "was just afraid." That fear was reflected in the title song, "Those Were the Days," sung by O'Connor and Stapleton, and written by Charles Strouse and Lee Adams of "Bye Bye Birdie" fame.
"Archie was afraid of tomorrow," Lear said. "That was his big problem.""

44 posted on 06/01/2013 2:19:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Monty22002

i guess edith finally shut up. rip, dingbat. /archie


45 posted on 06/01/2013 2:20:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Borges
The politics came later.

Gee the same refrain you always repeat, no, the politics didn't come "later", they were the purpose of the series and as my earlier post showed, we conservatives saw it the left saw it also, Hollywood loved the series, you never see it anywhere. You don't seem to be perceptive in regards to film entertainment.

46 posted on 06/01/2013 2:20:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Monty22002

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I


47 posted on 06/01/2013 2:20:37 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: ansel12

archie was damn right to be afraid of the marxist dialectic or what we call incrementalism.


48 posted on 06/01/2013 2:23:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ansel12

Huh? It was hugely popular at the time among everybody. and remains hugely popular. There was a lot of blowback about it from the Left actually that they made Archie too likable. Apparently, Bill Cosby still hates it.


49 posted on 06/01/2013 2:23:45 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Monty22002

It takes smarts to play dumb and innocent as well as she did. RIP, Jean.


50 posted on 06/01/2013 2:25:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Monty22002

All in the Family was hardcore communistic propaganda. Archie was a caricature of a married, blue-collar conservative made to look like an inarticulate bumbling fool shown up even week by his oh so enlightened college educated liberal kids. It was deliberately designed to mock traditional values and condition the American public to reject those values as out-dated, bigoted, and uncool.


51 posted on 06/01/2013 2:26:58 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: ansel12

If you dig deep enough you can find some sort of ‘bias’ in just about anything. A cultural artifact will reflect some world view. If its too narrow or shallow it won’t endure. Lear later had The Jeffersons which centered around a black racist. You would NEVER see that today.


52 posted on 06/01/2013 2:27:51 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
The original pilot was made as early as 1968 with a different Mike and Gloria...

looks like a white collar Archie, too. Must be after church.

53 posted on 06/01/2013 2:28:37 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Monty22002

She played the batty motel owner in Michael.


54 posted on 06/01/2013 2:28:57 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ansel12
I despised that series as a young man, it was pure, heavy handed propaganda

Sorry to hear that, lots of us chose to watch it for its humor and ignored everything else. It didn't affect our own political leanings whatsoever.......

As for your other off the wall claims, the American family wasn't redefined nor was the American father and mother.

The American family, father and mother remained exactly as they were throughout the lifetime of the sitcom.

Some people definitely need to get a life.........sheesh!

55 posted on 06/01/2013 2:30:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

What I find fascinating is that Archie does not fit into the two currently reigning stereotypes the Left has of conservatives. He wasn’t a ‘ruthless Corporate bigwig’ and he wasn’t a ‘redneck Bible-thumper’. The fact is that blue collar union workers are who the Left regard as their own.


56 posted on 06/01/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

There is zero doubt what the politics and the political purpose of all in the Family was, some on the left wanted more from Archie’s character and was disappointed that some people couldn’t see his true role, but that is what makes propaganda effective, it has to be palatable enough to get delivered, to reach the public.

Children’s TV does the same, it can’t work if it is so obvious that the parents just forbid it, and turn off the TV.


57 posted on 06/01/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

Archie Bunker is still one of the most beloved characters in TV history.


58 posted on 06/01/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Hot Tabasco
Sorry to hear that, lots of us chose to watch it for its humor and ignored everything else. It didn't affect our own political leanings whatsoever.......

No wonder the the left was so effective in reshaping the American culture over the last 40 years through TV, and movies, it seems to be the perfect medium for it, perfect.

59 posted on 06/01/2013 2:37:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Borges

Good God, that is your conservative argument?

Do you have any conservative instincts in you?


60 posted on 06/01/2013 2:40:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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