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To: DoughtyOne

Playing devils advocate here, but how do we sell true conservative ideas to Hispanics if they can’t get over their friends and family members being shut out of legal status? If Hispanics go 90% Democrat like Blacks, we can say goodbye to the U S of A.


17 posted on 05/27/2013 4:46:05 AM PDT by LoneRangerTX
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To: LoneRangerTX

Most Hispanics are government dependent....regardless of where they are from in the Hispanic world


27 posted on 05/27/2013 5:48:13 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: LoneRangerTX

My post was incomplete...sorry bout that

We will never get large numbers of Hispanics to support conservative causes. Even Cuban Americans are more into govt goodies than being anti Castro


29 posted on 05/27/2013 5:50:58 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: LoneRangerTX
how do we sell true conservative ideas

That is the biggest problem the GOP has -- they can't seem to find an effective way to get their message out. Of course, the Dems will lie and point fingers at anything the GOP comes up with -- that is the nature of politics. But, it still holds -- the GOP just can't get their message out.

The last 2 presidential nominees and the last term of GWBush didn't help the Republican message at all. What other president could run for a 2nd term by blaming everything on the previous administration, and win?

Another problem with the GOP is their capacity to fold on major issues. Too many of those on Capitol Hill just want to go along to get along.

Maybe that is the answer -- until the GOP/Republicans actually stand for something, they will continue to lose.
31 posted on 05/27/2013 5:53:36 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: LoneRangerTX; SeminoleCounty; TomGuy
Playing devils advocate here, but how do we sell true conservative ideas to Hispanics...

How do we sell good sound policy to any body of people?  We sell it by touching on core principles.

1. You have rights that are guaranteed under our Constitution.  We will make sure your rights are protected.
2. We support strong law and order policies, so that your families can be safe
3. We support you keeping more of what you earn
4. We are a law and order nation, and our immigration laws must be uniformly applied to all ethnic groups.  We cannot allow one ethic group to cirumvent the sytem, because that would be racial preferrence, something that would be unfair to the people from other ethnic groups wanting to come here.
5.
We will apply the laws that have been debated and devised in order to be fair to everyone.  Those who chose to break our laws force us to enforce our laws, something we really wish we didn't have to, but have been forced into.
6. In order to let you keep more of the money you have worked hard to earn, we have to limit the size of government.  Big government is oppressive.  We want you to have the power, not the government.

7.  If we allow people into our nation who cannot support themselves, they will vote for someone who will promise to give them more and more.  This corrupts the system, it leads to destructive government, and a damaged nation.

...if they can’t get over their friends and family members being shut out of legal status?

I think you would be surprised what percentage of Hispanics think we are crazy for allowing what we have.  They work very hard and are resentful of others coming here and leaching off the system.  They work to establish themselves in decent paying jobs, and then illegal immigrants come in and negatively impact the wages they can receive, or outright replace them at lower wages.  The established citizen Hispanic realizes the damage being done.  Don't think they aren't victims of crime.  Don't think they don't deal with gangs.  Don't think they aren't worried about their children coming home from school or playing out front of their homes.

Not trying to be insulting here, but you're listening to too many Lefties, and not thinking enough about the solid reasons for controlling our immigration, and how to explain that to your friends, family, and Hispanic neighbors.

If Hispanics go 90% Democrat like Blacks, we can say goodbye to the U S of A.


And if we allow 150 million new Hispanics to flood our nation in the next 20 years, it will result in the same thing.

47 posted on 05/27/2013 9:25:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: LoneRangerTX; DoughtyOne
If Hispanics go 90% Democrat like Blacks, we can say goodbye to the U S of A.

Can anyone on FR say, with a straight face, that has not been the plan for over 50 years. Eisenhower was a stumbling block, Reagan was duped, and Congress has duped us all.

63 posted on 05/27/2013 4:39:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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