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Memo to the South: Go Ahead, Secede Already!
The Daily Beast ^ | April 30, 2013 | Lee Siegel

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s face it—on nearly every important issue, from gun control to immigration to gay marriage, red states are holding America back. Lee Siegel on why the South should get the hell out of the union.

Let’s not be fooled by all the bipartisan rhetoric that has been streaming out of the GOP since Romney’s self-destruction. Hundreds of thousands of petitioners in a handful of red states still want to secede? Well, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

A solid block of Southern states continues to refuse to expand Medicaid, thus squashing one of the linchpins of the president’s health-care reform. The South will likely be the last and most stubborn battleground in the fight for gay marriage. Gun control? The more the two sides seem to get cozier with each other, the faster gun-control legislation gets watered down—and more and more red states are passing laws making it legal to carry a concealed weapon. As for immigration, the red states seem to be relaxing their anti-immigrant fervor, but nothing approaching new legislation is even on the horizon.

The sad truth is that “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” can only be achieved at this point if the nation is split in half. Far from being fanciful or fanatical, the proponents of secession have a stronger grasp of political reality than just about anyone else. In fact, there are serious reasons why the North itself should take the lead in a secessionist movement.

Just think what America would look like without its mostly Southern states. (We could retain “America”: they could call themselves “Smith & Wesson” or “Coca-Cola” or something like that.) Universal health care. No guns. Strong unions. A humane minimum wage....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; catholics; cwii; democrats; dixie; guncontrol; mittromney; mormons; noachide; seccesion; secede; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/30/2013 7:00:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I live in the South and would love to cast away the northern deadwood.


2 posted on 04/30/2013 7:04:42 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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I wish th South could secede at this point.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 7:04:48 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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In fact, there are serious reasons why the North itself should take the lead in a secessionist movement.

I'm all for it. I've always said it would be a lot easier to 'git er done' if we could make the libs think it was their idea and/or that they would be better off without us conservatives trying to keep them from their wonderfully blissful fantasy liberal dreamland.

4 posted on 04/30/2013 7:05:10 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deranged, leftist drivel on parade for the whole world to see.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 7:05:12 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

no problem for me and many others who live here, after al the country we live in is not one anyway.
We live in two countries anyway and anyone from the south going north to the north east will tell you that you might as well be in another country and the attitude , expense, prices, cost of living, social issues etc are very different to us down here


6 posted on 04/30/2013 7:05:12 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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(To be clear, I’d immigrate their immediately, if my current location isn’t considered the South already.)


7 posted on 04/30/2013 7:05:26 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it us seceding or them seceding from reality?


8 posted on 04/30/2013 7:06:42 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Team: Progressives, Margret Sanger, Josef Mengele and the Butcher of Philadelphia)
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To: packrat35

I and most down here who I know would love to see the south leave or the north east then leave us and take Chicago with them


9 posted on 04/30/2013 7:06:55 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Uh, it wouldn’t just be the South, it’d probably be most states between the mountain ranges.


10 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:04 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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Surely this is satire


11 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:13 PM PDT by Figment
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To: packrat35

I live in the South too and feel the same.


12 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:13 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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A bunch of claptrap. Every liberal talking point to a t and nothing more.

Were there to be a split and de-regulated red state mentality prevailed the blue states would be left with the welfare state and every major industry and capital producing entity would leave rather than be bled dry to support it.

They can keep what they consider “high art”.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:17 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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Just think what America would look like without its mostly Southern states. (We could retain “America”: they could call themselves “Smith & Wesson” or “Coca-Cola” or something like that.) Universal health care. No guns. Strong unions. A humane minimum wage. A humane immigration policy. High revenues from a fair tax structure. A massive public-works program. Legal gay marriage. A ban on carbon emissions. Electric cars. Stronger workplace protections. Extended family leave from work in case of pregnancy or illness. Longer unemployment benefits.

Ah, yes. Utopia! At last.

How long until the race war...???

14 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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The red states are the ones keeping the union alive and economically stable. I always pray that the revolution would finally start as it’s been long overdue.


15 posted on 04/30/2013 7:08:26 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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What a moron. Not disagreeing with him on sundering the country, except that the good guys should probably get to keep “America”, but his stereotypes and value judgments on the issues? What a moron. Like people who simply want freedom from excessive levels of government means you want to live in a Christian theocracy. Fool.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 7:09:06 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Sounds good to me. All the yankee libs in south Florida will need some time to evacuate. Perhaps they can go to Boston as political refugees.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 7:09:09 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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Oh, hell not.
The liberals can all move to the north east.....and leave the rest of us alone.


18 posted on 04/30/2013 7:09:28 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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Just think what America would look like without its mostly Southern states. Universal health care. No guns. Strong unions. A humane minimum wage....

Just like Mexico.

19 posted on 04/30/2013 7:10:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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The only people who would profit are lawyers battling over who would own what (interstate roads, satellites, etc.).

Secession is no longer practicable, let alone preferable.

The nation is disintegrating on its own. Best thing to do is hunker down and let the inevitable be.


20 posted on 04/30/2013 7:11:15 PM PDT by warchild9
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