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Paul Ryan Supports Gay Adoption, But Not Marriage
Roll Call ^ | 4/30/2013 | Meredith Shiner

Posted on 04/30/2013 5:33:37 PM PDT by markomalley

Former GOP vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., now supports the rights of gay Americans to adopt children, though he still believes marriage “is between a man and a woman.”

In a town hall meeting with constituents in Wisconsin on Monday, the House Budget Committee chairman said he has changed his mind on the adoption issue, even though his opinions on other aspects of gay rights have remained unchanged. To date, two Republican senators — Rob Portman of Ohio, who had been in the mix for Mitt Romney’s No. 2 spot, and Mark S. Kirk of Illinois — have come out in support of gay marriage.

“Adoption, I’d vote differently these days. That was I think a vote I took in my first term, 1999 or 2000. I do believe that if there are children who are orphans who do not have a loving person or couple, I think if a person wants to love and raise a child they ought to be able to do that. Period,” Ryan said in a video posted by the liberal website Think Progress. “I would vote that way. I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, we just respectfully disagree on that issue.”

Ryan’s move to support gay adoption is a particularly interesting one, given his continued national ambitions and Portman’s reversal on gay marriage. Portman announced in March that his college-aged son, Will, is gay and that he could no longer oppose marriage equality.

In the past, Ryan has opposed almost every equality measure, getting a “0″ on the Human Rights Campaign’s most recent Congressional scorecard. He opposed the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” supported the Defense of Marriage Act and voted against the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Protection Act, which expanded federal hate crime laws to protect the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.

In his remarks Monday, Ryan said he has “always supported” civil unions. Though there is no evidence to support that, it’s a clear sign that the politics of the issue have changed and that even the most conservative Republicans need to appear more hospitable to gays and lesbians in order to expand their voting bloc.

“I’ve always supported things like civil unions where you ought to be granted certain legal privileges to be able to have benefits whether it’s estate planning benefits or visitation and things like that,” Ryan said.

But a story published by The Advocate, a gay and lesbian news magazine, when Romney named Ryan to his ticket, noted that Ryan supported a Wisconsin-based ban on gay marriage and civil unions in 2006.

“Reviews of Ryan’s record indicate that he has voted overwhelmingly against LGBT rights. He voted twice for the federal constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage, and supported the ban on same-sex marriage and civil unions approved by Wisconsin voters in 2006. Ryan voted against “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal and hate crimes legislation, but he voted for the Employment Non-discrimination Act in 2007, when it included protections for sexual orientation but not gender identity,” the report said.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adoption; gay; homodefenders; homosexualagenda; paulryan; ryan; ssm; trollalert; ursulathevk; zot
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To: mike_9958
So we get social conservatives who put morals in front of security and the constitution. I’d rather have some one protect my rights and secure my nation - then we can talk about the other stuff.

You don't read very well, I said "explain your support for the homosexual agenda.".

Why do you want homosexuals adopting children?

You are a social liberal, meaning that you are not a conservative or as your post reveals, you disparage conservatism, just like a good liberal, homosexual aqenda supporting fellow would.

101 posted on 04/30/2013 8:34:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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Homosexual adoption is WORSE than same sex “marriage.” Innocent children are placed into unwholesome situations where they can and do become the playthings of overt deviants. There have been scores of cases of child molestation carried out by homosexual “parents.” They are usually covered up by a news media completely in the hands of the sexual deviants. I would not vote for Ryan for dogcatcher. What a vile selfish bastard. Who would be so low as to sacrifice innocent kids for a political career?


102 posted on 04/30/2013 8:58:15 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: markomalley

Stick a fork in him (I never liked the guy for personal reasons anyway).


103 posted on 04/30/2013 10:31:40 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: markomalley
Former GOP vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., now supports the rights of gay Americans to adopt children, though he still believes marriage “is between a man and a woman.”

Screw you Paul

104 posted on 04/30/2013 11:12:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Houghton M.; mike_9958

All right-minded persons disagree.


105 posted on 04/30/2013 11:17:31 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: steve86
There has never been any case in the history of the world in which there was no heterosexual couple available to raise a child.

I believe that to be correct. And I believe there would be more if there were not so many difficulties in the process. We found private adoption to be quite expensive and I was frankly repulsed when I learned of so-called open adoption.

That is when the birth mother maintains contact, including even visits with the child. As to foster parenting, we went to one prep class on that and fled. Some folks may be OK with opening all their business to the state. I was not.

106 posted on 05/01/2013 2:37:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: mike_9958; Norm Lenhart
Norm - I know when I won an argument

Maybe you don't know that the site owner is quite intolerant of posters who promote the homo agenda in any shape, manner or form. I see you have been on the board for a while. Are you unaware of this fact, or are you just stupid?

107 posted on 05/01/2013 2:41:42 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o; mike_9958

I sit here with my Beiber shirley stuuned. Other than GFY I really don’t know what else to say to this guy. I mean when you go on the furthest right of all conservative sites, make an argument that gay adoption is a desirable thing under ANY circumstance and claim such insanity ‘wins’ anything but the scorn so many here rightly heaped on him...

What else is there to say? I mean, ‘The stupid, it burns’ simply isn’t up to the task.


108 posted on 05/01/2013 5:26:01 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

bkmk


109 posted on 05/01/2013 5:42:33 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: novemberslady

Huh?


110 posted on 05/01/2013 5:47:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: novemberslady

Nevermind. I brainlocked...


111 posted on 05/01/2013 5:48:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: mike_9958; little jeremiah
I do not condone a homosexual adopting a child if there is an alternative, and for those that persist in saying there is always an alternative then I would agree, of course. But Ryan’s argument was that if no alternative exists, and in that case you can’t deny a life a chance to grow up with other people that would care for them.

There is ALWAYS an alternative. With all due respect to Little Jeremiah, even a poorly run orphanage is better than placing a child in a home with sexual perverts. Being raised by wolves is better than being adopted by homosexuals.

If the 'homosexuals' cared for the child they would not expose the child to their perversion. ANY exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse.

112 posted on 05/01/2013 6:38:49 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ilovesarah2012
It’s guys like him that made me decide I am no longer a republican. I am a conservative and I will only vote for conservative candidates. I am done with the lesser of two evils.

Join the club. I've been a member since after 2008. Could not vote for Romney/Ryan, even in the face of another Obama regime.

I really don't think Ryan helped the ticket much last year. Conscientious people knew he was a RINO under his thin veneer.

113 posted on 05/01/2013 6:51:14 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: markomalley

It will be a very short jump, and a very short time, until he supports sodomite “marriage,” mark my words.


114 posted on 05/01/2013 6:52:31 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: markomalley

It will be a very short jump, and a very short time, until he supports sodomite “marriage,” mark my words.


115 posted on 05/01/2013 6:54:00 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

If there has ever been a time for whoever his bishop is to call this bastard out publicly, it needs to be done now. He is causing great scandal in the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church absolutely does not condone children being raised by sodomites, and also does not condone “civil unions”.
This asshole Ryan needs either get right with the Catholic Church, or quit calling himself Catholic, or become a democrat, which is probably the best idea.


116 posted on 05/01/2013 8:02:16 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: John O; little jeremiah

“even a poorly run orphanage is better “

So John even a poorly run orphanage full of sexual perverts is better a couple of responsible adults.

You guys are sick puppies.... and sad ones that will condemn a human being to a life of misery so you can stand on your morals...gross


117 posted on 05/01/2013 10:43:25 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: don-o; Norm Lenhart

“Maybe you don’t know that the site owner is quite intolerant of posters who promote the homo agenda in any shape, manner or form.”

you’re an idiot - I’m not promoting any such agenda. My argument is with your interpretation of Ryan’s comment. The fact that you do not have the intellectual strength to see that amazes me.

And when a poster says GFY it simply means that they have nothing more to say other than curse words.

So Don go read the posts I wrote and quit echoing ridiculous sentiments.... and try to talk to me.


118 posted on 05/01/2013 10:49:23 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958; TheOldLady; Darksheare

No point in doing anything byt swearing at someone so stupid as to fight for the idea that homosexual adoption is a good idea in any circumstance. Allow me to introduce you to my feline friends.


119 posted on 05/01/2013 10:54:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: little jeremiah

“an orphanage if well run would be better, a group home if well run would be better.”

Then you agree that IF an alternative exists it would be better - which is what I said. (you have alot of “if”s in your sentence)

But IF the alternative doesn’t exist - then what ? That was Ryan’s point.

Now a previous poster argues that an alternative always exists, and if you buy that (and I’d like to) then it really doesn’t matter, because the alternative will always win out over the homosexual couple.


120 posted on 05/01/2013 10:57:02 AM PDT by mike_9958
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