Posted on 04/30/2013 5:33:37 PM PDT by markomalley
Former GOP vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., now supports the rights of gay Americans to adopt children, though he still believes marriage is between a man and a woman.
In a town hall meeting with constituents in Wisconsin on Monday, the House Budget Committee chairman said he has changed his mind on the adoption issue, even though his opinions on other aspects of gay rights have remained unchanged. To date, two Republican senators Rob Portman of Ohio, who had been in the mix for Mitt Romneys No. 2 spot, and Mark S. Kirk of Illinois have come out in support of gay marriage.
Adoption, Id vote differently these days. That was I think a vote I took in my first term, 1999 or 2000. I do believe that if there are children who are orphans who do not have a loving person or couple, I think if a person wants to love and raise a child they ought to be able to do that. Period, Ryan said in a video posted by the liberal website Think Progress. I would vote that way. I do believe marriage is between a man and a woman, we just respectfully disagree on that issue.
Ryans move to support gay adoption is a particularly interesting one, given his continued national ambitions and Portmans reversal on gay marriage. Portman announced in March that his college-aged son, Will, is gay and that he could no longer oppose marriage equality.
In the past, Ryan has opposed almost every equality measure, getting a 0″ on the Human Rights Campaigns most recent Congressional scorecard. He opposed the repeal of dont ask, dont tell, supported the Defense of Marriage Act and voted against the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Protection Act, which expanded federal hate crime laws to protect the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.
In his remarks Monday, Ryan said he has always supported civil unions. Though there is no evidence to support that, its a clear sign that the politics of the issue have changed and that even the most conservative Republicans need to appear more hospitable to gays and lesbians in order to expand their voting bloc.
Ive always supported things like civil unions where you ought to be granted certain legal privileges to be able to have benefits whether its estate planning benefits or visitation and things like that, Ryan said.
But a story published by The Advocate, a gay and lesbian news magazine, when Romney named Ryan to his ticket, noted that Ryan supported a Wisconsin-based ban on gay marriage and civil unions in 2006.
Reviews of Ryans record indicate that he has voted overwhelmingly against LGBT rights. He voted twice for the federal constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage, and supported the ban on same-sex marriage and civil unions approved by Wisconsin voters in 2006. Ryan voted against dont ask, dont tell repeal and hate crimes legislation, but he voted for the Employment Non-discrimination Act in 2007, when it included protections for sexual orientation but not gender identity, the report said.
THe alternative is married couples who want to adopt children and wait years and years becuase there aren’t enough to adopt due to abortion.
Are you both the same person, or a tag team of homosexuals?
At this point I think anyone supporting fags adopting children are fags themselves. Maybe even NAMBLA members.
he looks like such a nice boy. who knew he was a perv?
Anyone who would allow/accept help place a child in homosexual hands is at minimum nowhere in the universe of conservative. Ig goes downhill from there.
Homosexual acts should be re-criminalized.
Really? You need to see data to know that freerepublic is conservative and against homosexual adoption?
Go ahead and explain your support for the homosexual agenda.
Endangering the welfare of a child used to be a crime. Now it’s a platform of a former GOP VP candidate. And it’s now openly discussed as a ‘good thing’ on FR. Great.
Did I die and this is my hell?
“Go ahead and explain your support for the homosexual agenda.”
You guys don’t read so well.... I have no agenda.
I think you guys are very sad, and the fact that you’d sacrifice a child because of your “morals” is the same argument pro-choice uses to sacrifice a fetus.
I do not condone a homosexual adopting a child if there is an alternative, and for those that persist in saying there is always an alternative then I would agree, of course. But Ryan’s argument was that if no alternative exists, and in that case you can’t deny a life a chance to grow up with other people that would care for them.
“Are you both the same person, or a tag team of homosexuals?”
Great - now you are child calling people names....
Time for you to go away.
There has never been any case in the history of the world in which there was no heterosexual couple available to raise a child.
“I can honestly say to you is GFY.”
Norm - I know when I won an argument when the most intelligent thing you can say is “GFY”
LOL
TIme for you to prove that homosexuals aka mentally ill sex perverts make good parents.
Post an article showing that they do not molest children more than the general population.
There are countless numbers of married couples - normal married couples consisting of a husband and wife - who wait months and years to adopt children, or who give up and adopt from foreign countries - because there are so few children to adopt.
So the argument that there are reams of children with no normal people to adopt them so faggots must be able to (at 2% of the population no less) is a specious and duplicitous argument. IOW it is a damned lie.
“There has never been any case in the history of the world in which there was no heterosexual couple available to raise a child.”
Then that should be the argument... and I would hope that is always the case, because then my (and Ryan’s) argument is hypothetical and pointless.
One of my old taglines:
We’ll have to go through hell to get out of hell.
Darkest before dawn and all that.
The evil has to be totally seen to be rejected. Rejected by the fence sitters and those who are late to the party. Of course evil will always be embraced and promoted by some. But IMHO a lot of people in the US are just late to the party. Now that all manner of evil agendas are pedal to the metal, it gives everyone a chance to choose “A” or “B”.
Then... we’ll see what happens next. And I am not an end times believer, but if people believe that way I don’t mind.
“So the argument that there are reams of children with no normal people to adopt them so faggots must be able to (at 2% of the population no less) is a specious and duplicitous argument. IOW it is a damned lie.”
Excellent - so basically you are saying that there is always an alternative to a homosexual adoption, which I can’t argue (someone else may). Therefore would you agree with Ryan’s point but not his premise because an alternative always exists?
“Excellent - so basically you are saying that there is always an alternative to a homosexual adoption, which I cant argue (someone else may). Therefore would you agree with Ryans point but not his premise because an alternative always exists?”
Let me rephrase:
Excellent - so basically you are saying that there is always an heterosexual alternative to a homosexual adoption, which I cant argue (someone else may). Therefore would you agree with Ryans point but not his premise because an adoption by a heterosexual couple alternative always exists?
I do not agree with Ryan’s point at all. Even if, hypotheticaly speaking, there was not a married normal couple to adopt a child, a single normal person would be better, an orphanage if well run would be better, a group home if well run would be better.
No chlid should ever be placed with one or more mentally ill sex perverts. Got it?
But you’re the one who thinks not all faggots are perverts. You must have a very strange definition of the word “pervet” in your personal lexicon.
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