Posted on 04/08/2013 8:06:25 PM PDT by caldera599
A long-lost gospel that casts Judas as a co-conspirator of Jesus, rather than a betrayer, was ruled most likely authentic in 2006. Now, scientists reveal they couldn't have made the call without a series of far more mundane documents, including Ancient Egyptian marriage licenses and property contracts.
The Gospel of Judas is a fragmented Coptic text, traced back to Egypt, which portrays Judas in a far more sympathetic light than did the gospels that made it into the Bible. In this version of the story, Judas turns Jesus over to the authorities for execution upon Jesus' request, as part of a plan to release his spirit from his body. In the accepted biblical version of the tale, Judas betrays Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
As part of a 2006 National Geographic Society investigation of the document, microscopist Joseph Barabe of McCrone Associates in Illinois and a team of researchers analyzed the ink on the tattered gospel to find out if it was real or forged. Some of the chemicals in the ink raised red flags — until Barabe and his colleagues found, at the Louvre Museum, a study of Egyptian documents from the third century A.D., the same time period of the Gospel of Judas.
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I watched a show on TV about this last weekend. I wasn’t convinced of anything. The “scholars” involved were out to prove Judas was a nice guy who conspired with Jesus to help get Jesus crucified. BS.
So why was Judas vilified and driven to suicide?
Judas could've repented & been forgiven, but he didn't repent and seek forgiveness. He committed suicide on his own account.
A piece of trash it is but it will produce reams of silliness about it was repressed because it reveals the “true” story.
The book sounds more like something someone under orders from Caiaphas or another High Priest would write. Remember there was an ongoing effort to discredit Christ. I haven’t read it and sure don’t intend to.
John ch 17 v 9-12 makes things clear about Judas.
I’ve always believed Judas did what was asked of him. When Jesus was asked who would betray him and He responded “The one who dips his bread when I dip mine”, all Judas had to do was not dip the bread. It’s my belief that Jesus was leaving it up to Judas as to whether or not to be known throughout eternity as a traitor.
I also believe when Jesus said “You betray the Son of Man with a kiss”, He was acknowledging that He knew Judas loved Him.
Finally, the Priests and Romans who crucified Him went to Heaven. Jesus asked that His Father forgive them. He interceded on their behalf just like He interceded on our behalf.
I don’t wish to get into heated arguments. It’s my beliefs and has been as long I’ve known the story.
Amen! And the Gospels were not written during the time of the Apostles or even by the Apostles. With the exception of John.
Why do you trust 'scholars' appointed by a Roman emperor 300 years after Christ lived to be the "final word"?
Hard to write a gospel with insides all over the ground after hanging oneself.
Every story needs a heavy. Judas refused to leave tips, so ....
It will help you understand what a small sect called the Cainites, and Gnostic Egyptians believed, but was rejected as early as 180 AD by Iraenaeus. So ‘new’ only in the sense that it surfaced in the ‘70s, a Coptic translation from Greek. It says Judas was actually Jesus’ best buddy and ratted him out at his request, it contradicts the biblical story of creation and suggests that after death we journey to some different star system.
I think Robert Heinlin wrote it, during one of his reincarnations.
If this helps, it’s all argument ad ignoratio. All of them. Believe what you want.
I believe it’s bedtime.
Why would he have to repent of something he was asked?meant to do? If God selected him for that part of Christs mission. Judas should have been welcomed in to heaven and given a hearty well done.
as an old monk explained to me long ago, Juda’s big mistake wasn’t in betraying Christ—it was in being so arrogant that he took it on himself and killed himself. She should have rushed to the cross and asked Jesus for forgiveness. Then, maybe , he would have become the greatest of all the apostles.
Scholars have proven the Gospel of Judas was written by him after his suicide.
Hi “skr”
That always puzzled me.
I haven’t looked up the passages about it, but I kind of thought that the ones who gave him the 30 pieces of silver strung him up and gutted him like a fish, because he felt horrible for his betrayal, and the silver givers didn’t want him spilling the beans so they did him in themselves. I don’t understand how one can hang and gut themselves at the same time, unless maybe they left him hanging in the hot sun for days and nature just took its toll.
As a matter of faith, I believe the Holy Spirit put the Bible together. An unsaved person might say something like "men wrote the Bible". If men wrote it, then it's not worth spit. If God wrote it, it's eternal life! I would not try to add or subtract anything.
I believe he “confessed” his sins to the Pharasees when he returned the silver By giving it back he was showing that he didn’t do it for money. He did it out of obedience to someone much higher than they.
As for committing suicide one account is he hung himself and another is that he “fell headlong into a field”.
One other point, Judas was the treasurer of the group. He would have been the one to take the money.
I also think Pilate got a back rap. He washed his hands of the whole affair. And by law he had to do what the Jews wanted.
Clearly it’s gnostic.
The article says”authenticate” but really what they’ve shown is that it’s not a RECENT fake but a 1700 year old fake.
I’ve always found it interesting that evangelicals which reject almost anything Catholics believe so strongly embrace that bible that the Catholics assembled.
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