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To: caldera599
I have never understood that part of the story. Jesus knew Judas was going to betray him and indeed needed him to so the authorities could arrest him. This was part of “God's plan”.

So why was Judas vilified and driven to suicide?

22 posted on 04/08/2013 9:39:01 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD
>>So why was Judas vilified and driven to suicide?<<

Judas could've repented & been forgiven, but he didn't repent and seek forgiveness. He committed suicide on his own account.

23 posted on 04/08/2013 9:55:57 PM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: BigCinBigD

Amen! And the Gospels were not written during the time of the Apostles or even by the Apostles. With the exception of John.


28 posted on 04/08/2013 10:37:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: BigCinBigD

Every story needs a heavy. Judas refused to leave tips, so ....

It will help you understand what a small sect called the Cainites, and Gnostic Egyptians believed, but was rejected as early as 180 AD by Iraenaeus. So ‘new’ only in the sense that it surfaced in the ‘70s, a Coptic translation from Greek. It says Judas was actually Jesus’ best buddy and ratted him out at his request, it contradicts the biblical story of creation and suggests that after death we journey to some different star system.
I think Robert Heinlin wrote it, during one of his reincarnations.
If this helps, it’s all argument ad ignoratio. All of them. Believe what you want.
I believe it’s bedtime.


31 posted on 04/08/2013 11:23:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: BigCinBigD

as an old monk explained to me long ago, Juda’s big mistake wasn’t in betraying Christ—it was in being so arrogant that he took it on himself and killed himself. She should have rushed to the cross and asked Jesus for forgiveness. Then, maybe , he would have become the greatest of all the apostles.


33 posted on 04/09/2013 12:02:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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