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How North Korea Could Destroy The United States
Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 5, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by raptor22

National Security: The administration moves an advanced missile defense system to Guam because it knows a single low-yield nuke detonated at high altitude could send America back in time a hundred years.

The announcement Wednesday by the Defense Department that it would soon deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (THAAD), a missile defense system inherited from the Bush administration, to Guam underscores the seriousness of the threat from North Korea, whose actions, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel rightly said, "present a real and clear danger."

This move comes after the Obama administration reversed its previous scuttling of Bush administration plans to increase our ground-based interceptor force in Alaska and the deployment of two destroyers equipped with Aegis missile defense systems, the Decatur and the John McCain, to the region.

Some observers dismissed it as familiar bluster when North Korea's 28-year-old raging runt, Kim Jong-un, signed an order for North Korea's strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at U.S. targets in front of a map that included Austin, Texas, as a target.

But other observers are concerned that a specific target may not be what the possibly imploding North Korean regime may have in mind.

The three-stage missile North Korea launched last December that also orbited a "package," which experts say could be a test to orbit a nuclear weapon that then would be de-orbited on command anywhere over the U.S. and exploded at a high altitude, releasing an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). That would fry electronic circuitry and the nation's power grid.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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To: Black Agnes

The city zombies are dependent on “mass transit.”

Some prepare, some don’t.


141 posted on 04/05/2013 8:34:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not even that long.

The minute the electricity goes off, life as normal ends.

Micro-no go

electric stove-no go

ac/heat-no go

TV-no go

light on demand-no go

After 36-48 hours, depending on where you live and time of year, the smell from rotting food from peoples freezers starts to become overwhelming, and that doesn’t even take into consideration the flies.


142 posted on 04/05/2013 8:35:07 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Quickgun
“Obama’s people would be robbing and killing everyone they could, making it even harder to repair the situation”

‘Obama’s people’ all live in cities and would die once the food ran out. Other than a couple thousand gang-bangers they are unarmed. Those living in the Burbs might take a bad hit, but country boys wouldn't have much to worry about.

143 posted on 04/05/2013 8:36:02 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: babygene
Yes, we could suffer major damage but we would recover in months.

Back around 2005, a major transformer (about the size of a boxcar) that was one of several first-line stepdown transformers for electrical transmission lines coming into Phoenix blew up.

Until it was replaced, there were constant concerns about having to go to rolling blackouts (middle of summer).

The nearest replacement was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest.

Transporting it to Phoenix involved transporting it by barge to Los Angeles, then putting it on a heavy-lift truck and driving it 400 miles at 5 mph.

Then, it had to be installed.

What happens if an EMP attack destroys half of all the transformers of that type in the country? Note that those transformers are particularly susceptible to EMP damage because they are attached to very long wires.

144 posted on 04/05/2013 8:36:12 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IMR 4350

I’ve had enough “test runs” with my solar system at the ranch.

Sixteen L-16 batteries are good for 48 hours during extended blizzard conditions. After that you either shut down, or permanently damage the batteries.


145 posted on 04/05/2013 8:38:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You don’t think starving zombies know how to walk?

Once they got the idea that things weren’t going to come back they’d be on the hoof.

Millions of them. And not just the gang bangers. The socialites, marketing managers, school teachers, doctors, nurses, and the engineers needed to fix what got broken.

Once the cities burn to the ground the odds of fixing the infrastructure in less than a year get increasingly dicey. Especially if major roads are disrupted or destroyed.


146 posted on 04/05/2013 8:39:34 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: raptor22; Black Agnes; Wyatt's Torch; Resolute Conservative; laplata; PastorBooks; ctdonath2; ...

Raptor22 thanks for the topic! I will buy the “one second after “ book.

Pinging all y’all to posts:

42, 64, 83, 86, 104, and 136.

Also 72 & 77.

Observation:

How far can those e.b.t. folks in the cities walk ?


147 posted on 04/05/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: DuncanWaring

>> “Note that those transformers are particularly susceptible to EMP damage because they are attached to very long wires.” <<

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A large percentage of them are well fused to protect them. Depends on where you are.


148 posted on 04/05/2013 8:41:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mouton
"After that he would declare victory and go out on the campaign trail."

After a nice, long vacation on our dime.

149 posted on 04/05/2013 8:41:49 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Black Agnes

I told a lib co-worker that one time when she was deriding me for owning guns and for generally being an American male. She went down this path of my compensating for manhood, conspiracy theorist, red-neck yada yada. She went on to say “you probably have 6 months of food and ammo in your underground house”. I said, “no not really”, to which she got confused, “I only have enough food for about 2 weeks. I plan on coming and taking all you and your commie, unarmed friends stuff. My family won’t be without, yours will.”

She never spoke to me again. Mission accomplished, albeit, I was not lying. I stash water and ammo and some food. I will be a marauder to those that helped usher this era upon us.


150 posted on 04/05/2013 8:42:55 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: babygene

“60 million people lost power in the last hurricane...”

Are you sure? Even if everyone in NY, NJ, PA and CT lost power it would not add up to 60 million.


151 posted on 04/05/2013 8:44:55 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: raptor22

Now can we thank Ronald Reagan?


152 posted on 04/05/2013 8:46:08 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: DuncanWaring

And the largest of those transformers are, now, mostly Made in China.

And given the nature of the attack, China might decide our credit was bad and refuse to sell them to us.

Then what?


153 posted on 04/05/2013 8:46:54 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Thane_Banquo

“Tonight it goes almost directly over Washington, DC. Tomorrow night it goes directly over NYC.”

Ouch.


154 posted on 04/05/2013 8:48:24 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Black Agnes

You act like it is one person against the mobs. There is a whole section of society that while not being “true preppers” are able to survive and band together to combat the hoards and we are well armed and stocked. Not just with ammo and food stuffs, but clothes, tools, books that tell how to build/repair things (not on a stupid Kindle either).

The mobs will get thinned out quickly in the Texas sun walking anywhere more than a couple miles. If things really go that bad then I venture that some would go on the offensive and try to engage interlopers away from the homestead.


155 posted on 04/05/2013 8:50:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Black Agnes

“An EMP attack could put us at third world status for the next 2 generations. Possibly longer since we wouldn’t even have a population surplus to market as a labor force.”

In Texas we’d be down maybe a week or two. One emp? Third
world status? Sounds like global warming hype to me. Ike
came through Houston and wiped the place out. I don’t
remember FEMA doing kack. We dealt with loss of power, in
some places for over a month, and worked our way through it.
Nothing personal to you Black Agnes but I keep hearing all
this about one EMP and we’re all back to the stone age and I don’t buy it. Maybe 100 or 500 at once yea, but not just one?


156 posted on 04/05/2013 8:51:26 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: babygene
There are hundreds of millions of firearms in this country. And how are these “invaders” going to get here? It’s not like they can just walk here...

And at the end of the day, it's up to ordinary Americans to make the stand for freedom. Just as it always has.

157 posted on 04/05/2013 8:51:30 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Black Agnes
How much payload does it take for an advanced EMP weapon?

Define "advanced". Are you talking US or Russian "advanced" or "advanced" for NK?

To generate an EMP that will cover the US, you need at least 1 MT at 250 miles. For US "advanced", you need the ability to loft over a ton. Early (1950's) H-bombs were about 12 tons.

158 posted on 04/05/2013 8:51:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Initially, after the storm blew over, they couldn’t get across the Mississippi River Bridge out of New Orleans cause of the armed citizens blocking it.


159 posted on 04/05/2013 8:52:11 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m going to assume there are Russians assisting the Norks.

And an EMP blast over the entire US would be overkill if the goal is to eliminate our ability to project a military presence overseas to any large extent.

Even IF our military is hardened against such an attack, how willing are our services going to be if they know their families are in great peril in CONUS?


160 posted on 04/05/2013 8:53:40 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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