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Are Assault Rifles Strictly Weapons of War?
American Spectator ^ | 4.3.13 | LUCA GATTONI-CELLI

Posted on 04/04/2013 10:31:15 AM PDT by neverdem

The answers are far from simple, and lie in American constitutional and military history.

A key narrative in the push to ban assault weapons is that they are exceptionally powerful, firing rounds with a special capacity to pierce body armor and pulverize human bodies. The AR-15 infamously used in the Sandy Hook massacre fires the same 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition as its cousin the M16. The “NATO” designation seems to validate Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and company’s fear that these are military weapons which do not belong in the hands of civilians. The language of the Second Amendment and historical context in which it was conceived fundamentally undermine this logic:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The Bill of Rights was adopted as a precaution against tyrannical government, with the Second Amendment democratizing military force. The Framers believed that citizens should have access to the military hardware they themselves would use to defend the homeland against tyranny, foreign or domestic, as members of militias. Whether this standard applies to artillery (reasonable persons may differ), it surely includes firearms. If anything, an originalist interpretation of the Constitution privileges the right to keep and bear arms suitable for militia service.

Progressives counter that the homeland has long been protected by a standing army. In their view, the right to keep and bear arms was confirmed strictly in the interest of military preparedness. No less than the Father of the Constitution expressly warned against a standing army. James Madison spent many months before the Constitutional Convention studying the history of governments. As he said to that body:

A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 04/04/2013 10:31:15 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Yes, and since we are looking at either Civil War 2 or Revolutionary War 2, we need them.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 10:33:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: neverdem

Is an AR15 a defense rifle?


3 posted on 04/04/2013 10:33:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: neverdem
Whether this standard applies to artillery (reasonable persons may differ), it surely includes firearms.

The Constitution includes a proviso for Letters of Marque -- if a private citizen happens to have a war ship, loaded with cannon, and capable of engaging ships of the British fleet, the Constitution provides grounds for Congress to authorize use of such a private vessel in official servive to our country.

So ... yeah ... US citizens can arm themselves with just about anything, Bucko.

4 posted on 04/04/2013 10:34:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: neverdem; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ...

bump!


5 posted on 04/04/2013 10:35:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: neverdem

2A is ABOUT WEAPONS OF WAR.

It is for keeping weapons of war in the populace, and as written it guarantees ANY warmaking weapon as a correction to the government.


6 posted on 04/04/2013 10:37:48 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: ClearCase_guy

A short-barrelled weapon with a high ammo capacity, be it a shotgun or an AR, is superior for home defense over a long-barrelled hunting weapon.

Nothing like Joe Biden, a man with Secret Service protection, lecturing those without bodyguards on how to defend themselves and their homes. Hint, Joe - your Secret Service detail does not pack duck-hunting shotguns.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 10:37:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: neverdem

Why do cops have them?


8 posted on 04/04/2013 10:37:57 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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10 posted on 04/04/2013 10:38:07 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Is an AR15 a defense rifle?

YES, Homeland security even said so.


11 posted on 04/04/2013 10:38:35 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: neverdem

Origin of Assault Rifle is German. Sturmgehwar, most notably the Sturmgehwar 44. Lightweight bullets, high capacity, auto-fire rate that was respectable.

AR-15 has a lot of similarities except it is semi-auto. So does the civilian equivalent of the AK-47....so what?

Weapon of war? Well, yes, we are in a war with our government right now - it just isn’t ‘declared’ formally.


12 posted on 04/04/2013 10:39:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ClearCase_guy
The 'well regulated militia' part means the gub'ment owes me an M60 machinegun, 10 skids of 7.62 AND a nuclear landmine.

They shoulda' known better than tinker with the militia clause back in the 70s to put the wymen in eh! Put in the old ausfahrts as well Bwahahahaha!

13 posted on 04/04/2013 10:41:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

All the fricken Democrats and RINOs who wish to bask in the “security” of communism should move to Russia or China or Cuba. Leave freedom for the true Americans who can handle it!!


14 posted on 04/04/2013 10:41:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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To: neverdem
The AR-15 infamously used in the Sandy Hook massacre fires the same 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition as its cousin the M16. The “NATO” designation seems to validate Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and company’s fear that these are military weapons

There are bolt action rifles that shoot 30.06 Springfield (NATO 7.62mm). It is the same round that the M-1 Garand and M-14 uses. By using the above logic, the bolt action rifle is also a "military weapon".

15 posted on 04/04/2013 10:42:53 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: TurboZamboni

Fire on dem Grills!


16 posted on 04/04/2013 10:43:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JimRed
Yes, and since we are looking at either Civil War 2 or Revolutionary War 2, we need them.

Could not agree more.

In fact, we should be able to freely obtain Barrett .50 cal rifles, M60 mini-guns and 40mm grenade launchers. Methinks we'll need them.

17 posted on 04/04/2013 10:44:11 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: neverdem
Assault weapons are the equalizer in a civil war where Government is a criminal communists organization that has totally destroyed our Constitution. There, is that better?
18 posted on 04/04/2013 10:44:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: pfflier

7.62 is similar to .308, not .30-06


19 posted on 04/04/2013 10:44:38 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TurboZamboni

LOL I like that.


20 posted on 04/04/2013 10:44:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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