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What would happen if Obama lost his fight for gun control?
The Washington Examiner ^ | 3 April, 2013 | Brian Hughes

Posted on 04/04/2013 7:54:04 AM PDT by marktwain

White House officials are now openly conceding that President Obama's gun control package could die on Capitol Hill, a development analysts said would cast a pall over the president's second-term agenda and weaken his leverage with Republicans.

The president's trek to Denver on Wednesday was his latest attempt to regain momentum on the issue of gun violence, on which Obama has so far failed to close a deal despite a substantial investment of political capital.

"There doesn't have to be a conflict between protecting our citizens and protecting our Second Amendment rights," Obama said, surrounded by law enforcement officers in the Colorado capital.

But an overwhelming number of Republicans and a handful of red-state Democrats aren't buying that message.

Unlike immigration, which the White House views as a political winner even if the GOP kills reforms, new gun restrictions don't enjoy the same level of support along party lines. Obama can't merely bank on painting Republicans as obstructionists for political gain, analysts said.

"I don't think Republicans would lose the House [in 2014] simply because they blocked the president's gun initiatives," said Nathan Gonzales, deputy editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report.

And from a policy perspective, this may represent Obama's last, best shot to achieve the types of firearms laws long rebuffed by the powerful gun lobby in Washington.

"It has to be done this calendar year -- and that's being generous," Gonzales added.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; election; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
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To: Fresh Wind

True. TRUE.

And eventually hundreds of thousands of people will die across the globe!


21 posted on 04/04/2013 8:28:39 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: marktwain

**** this may represent Obama’s last, best shot to achieve the types of firearms laws long rebuffed by the powerful gun lobby in Washington.****

No it doesn’t. If the law is not passed the following things will happen.

A tougher gun control law will be prepared and set aside.

A mental patient will be released from an insane asylum.

He will legally get a gun on the “to be banned” list by passing the NICS and local state checks.

He will get extended magazines on the “to be banned” list.

He will get ammo.

He will go on a killing spree.

He will then kill himself.

The set aside bill to ban guns will be brought out and passed in the heat of passion, with a backup of giving billions to the states as a bait to pass the bill.

It has happened in the past. This is how Pat Purdy got his guns to shoot up the Stockton school yard, then the California AW ban, which was already prepared, was passed in the heat of passion.


22 posted on 04/04/2013 8:30:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Is anybody, even, seriously and successfully, finding out about how much cheating was, actually, going on, during the ‘12 U.S. general election as well as during all other elections, in ‘13 and before ‘13 and to the best of human abilities? There’s, at the very least, the possibility of cheating going on, during ALL ELECTIONS, at every political level, to each and every political office, going back to the very beginning, IMHO. It’s like trying to keep track of each and every moment in existence where somebody-an individual or a group-was, actually, being unconstitutional, from day one of the existence of the U.S. Constitution all the way up to the, actual, end of the world.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 8:31:21 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: marktwain
What would happen if Obama lost his fight for gun control?

Nothing. We're still stuck with him for another 4 years.

Besides, based on the lack of action coming out of the Congress, he's basically already lost.

Next non-story.

24 posted on 04/04/2013 8:35:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: marktwain
He'd take another vacation.

He'd take one if he won, too.

25 posted on 04/04/2013 8:41:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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26 posted on 04/04/2013 8:48:34 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Simple answer, no.

The Left figured there was nothing we the people can do to stop them. They were/are right.

Up to certain point. I think the time for reckoning is soon upon us.

27 posted on 04/04/2013 8:49:34 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: marktwain

He lost the fight anyways.


28 posted on 04/04/2013 8:56:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I still hesitate to entertain the idea that even the Chicago machine would actively participate in a massacre in order to achieve their goals, but as for the rest, I agree 100%.

Even at their most innocent, the bills will be prepared and tuned, propaganda will be prepared, and they will wait expectantly for one crazy person, somewhere, to snap.

If they actually are involved in a massacre, then we're way past that awkward stage.

29 posted on 04/04/2013 8:56:14 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: marktwain

“The president’s trek to Denver on Wednesday was his latest attempt to regain momentum on the issue of gun violence, on which Obama has so far failed to close a deal despite a substantial investment of political capital.”

Guess he and his libtard buddies are going to have to stage another mass shooting of children to get public sympathy behind him.

To him and the majority of liberals, they would murder a million children to get their way. In fact they do murder over a million children with abortion, so using bullets wouldn’t be a stretch for them.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 9:00:05 AM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: molson209
Obama could care less

Actually, he could NOT care less....

31 posted on 04/04/2013 9:11:21 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L
about 3 1/2 years until the next election. Less than 2 1/2 or so until election 2016 starts getting going.

6 months until the run-up to the midterms.

Basically, this is his last chance to push anything through.

Thank your lucky stars he's focused on this as the clock ticks away and not amnesty.

32 posted on 04/04/2013 9:19:31 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Sender; All
“If they actually are involved in a massacre, then we're way past that awkward stage.”

Fast and Furious (AKA Gunwalker) was pretty close. The ATF officials who designed it were joyful everytime those guns were used in crime in Mexico. At least 500 were killed with those weapons.

You could argue that those deaths would have happened anyway. But it is not much of a step from being complicit in massacres for political purposes to actively designing them.

33 posted on 04/04/2013 9:39:28 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; All

“Thank your lucky stars he’s focused on this as the clock ticks away and not amnesty.”

I thank God that he is *not* focused, and *not* a hard worker. If he had the drive and work ethic of a Hitler or even a Chavez, we would be in far worse shape.

Without the incredible, slavish, support of the MSM, he would be nothing.


34 posted on 04/04/2013 9:42:35 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

What would happen if King Obozo loses his gun control fight? Freedom is what will happen! King Obozo can kiss me where the good Lord split me!


35 posted on 04/04/2013 9:47:33 AM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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To: mountainlion

he d do another false flag newtown op somewhere else. then have all the goat democrats bleat about how republicans are to blame for it.

predictable.


36 posted on 04/04/2013 10:32:20 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’d doubt they would do another Sandy Hoax....the few intrepid conspiracist have made that little episode into a comedy....too bad many pro 2nd A and anti-leftist failed to join in and do more because of terminal PCness.


37 posted on 04/04/2013 10:48:47 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: marktwain
He would start signing EO’s and dare the courts to tell him to stop.

Illinois/Chicago politics on the national scale.

Stop assuming that the law means anything to this guy.

38 posted on 04/04/2013 10:56:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: brownsfan

“...Americans, in general, are stupid, and will be busy with their iphones as their liberties are taken away...”

Absolutely correct - the only thing I would add is that it’s basically already just about a done deal (the totalitarian state) and the people who elected Obama are going to be shocked when they wake up (if they wake up) and realize the destruction he has wreaked - ALREADY, not in the future.


39 posted on 04/04/2013 11:04:10 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
“Republicans could win big in 2014.”

So far as I have seen, the elite, establishment, inner Beltway RINOs are at war with the TEA Party and conservatives. They have made alliance with the Donkeys so they can rule over Americans to preserve their perks. The RINO consultants like Karl “Tokyo” Rove and Steve “hate Palin” Schmidt want to: (1) maximize the money they make from ineffective PACs and (2) make sure their fellow Donkeys stay in the power sharing partnership with them.

If Republicans are to be successful, the Quislings in the Republican Party must be purged and sent to the showers with the Libs and Donkeys.

40 posted on 04/04/2013 3:01:28 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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