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It seems the best case is avoiding a ruling finding all state level Pro-Traditional Marriage laws/amendments unconstitutional.
1 posted on 03/27/2013 10:31:59 AM PDT by C19fan
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I stopped giving oral argument analysis any weight back when all the “experts” said the individual mandate was gone from Obamacare. I didn't get optimistic yesterday when all the experts said it seemed to go badly for the pro-gay marriage side, and I'm not going to get depressed because they say the opposite in today's DOMA arguments.
2 posted on 03/27/2013 10:34:59 AM PDT by apillar
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I think the best case is ruling DOMA unconstitutional, and clearly stating that the Federal Government has no business defining marriage at all. Leave the matter to the states.


3 posted on 03/27/2013 10:35:22 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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If they rule that the Federal Government has no role in defining marriage, it is left to the States, and if so, to be consistent, than Proposition 8 should be allowed to stand.


4 posted on 03/27/2013 10:35:24 AM PDT by AU72
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The Ultimate Argument Against so-called "Gay ""Marriage""=

me: Marriage is between a man and a woman and is very powerful.

Are your parents gay?

Gay Person: No my parents are not gay.

me: There you go!

[def. of parent: " one who begets or brings forth offspring =Webster, 1887]

6 posted on 03/27/2013 10:41:30 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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I think the court will ultimately rule along the lines of what Michael McConnell recommended in his WSJ article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324281004578354300151597848.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


8 posted on 03/27/2013 10:42:24 AM PDT by cotton1706
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Words have meaning not because of “laws”.
Or flash-in-the-pan court decisions.

Words have meaning because of common usage.

I very much doubt the people will ever believe/accept that “marriage” is anything other than one man united with one woman.


9 posted on 03/27/2013 10:47:57 AM PDT by djf (I don't want to be safe. I want to be FREE!)
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Stupid humanity-—after multiple centuries of history here we are debating the definition of marriage.


12 posted on 03/27/2013 10:52:33 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Sadly, my prediction is the SCOTUS will vote 6-3 in favor of scrapping all traditional marriage laws. Roberts and Kennedy will side with the majority.


19 posted on 03/27/2013 11:03:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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IMO, the issue of “gay marriage” should be left to the states. It’s NOT a federal issue and the bloated government of zero needs to get the heck out of it altogether.

Based on previous predictions of how the court would rule after oral arguments, we won’t know anything until CJ Roberts declares that Congress can allow anyone to get married as long as they are taxed accordingly!


22 posted on 03/27/2013 11:06:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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24 posted on 03/27/2013 11:11:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I’m looking at this from a different angle...

Homosexuals have no right to be sheltered from the kind of screwing that I and millions of others have suffered from the “family courts.”

Seriously, you want to punish these people...? Demand they be exposed to the divorce industry. Alimony, community property, custody fights, child support, ruined credit rating...let them have it if they want it so damned bad. Trust me, it won’t be doing them any favors.


27 posted on 03/27/2013 11:18:20 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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I have long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages and this legislation is consistent with that position. The Act confirms the right of each state to determine its own policy with respect to same gender marriage and clarifies for purposes of federal law the operative meaning of the terms "marriage" and "spouse".

Statement by Slick Willie Clinton when he signed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.

35 posted on 03/27/2013 11:33:11 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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The Justices should ask the gay marriage proponents to describe how their 'marriage' is consummated.

"Within the Roman Catholic Church, a marriage that has not yet been consummated, regardless of the reason for non-consummation, can be dissolved by the Pope. Additionally, an inability or an intentional refusal to consummate the marriage is probable grounds for an annulment. Catholic canon law defines a marriage as consummated when the "spouses have performed between themselves in a human fashion a conjugal act which is suitable in itself for the procreation of offspring, to which marriage is ordered by its nature and by which the spouses become one flesh." Thus some theologians, such as Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J., state that intercourse with contraception does not consummate a marriage." [Wikipedia]

Perhaps those of other religions could state their standards.

39 posted on 03/27/2013 11:55:38 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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...defined marriage as limited to a man and a woman

I say let the voters of each state determine this issue and keep SCOTUS out of this. It should be considered a state rights issue. If Kalifornika and Ass a chutesets want queer marriage, let them. Just don't force it on the states that don't want queer marriages.

44 posted on 03/27/2013 12:51:40 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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61 posted on 03/27/2013 7:34:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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