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National Review Online: The Cruz Birthers
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/343914/cruz-birthers-eliana-johnson ^

Posted on 03/26/2013 7:02:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

42-year-old Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, to an American mother and a Cuban father. By dint of his mother’s citizenship, Cruz was an American citizen at birth. Whether he meets the Constitution’s requirement that the president of the United States be a “natural-born citizen,” a term the Framers didn’t define and for which the nation’s courts have yet to offer an interpretation, has become the subject of considerable speculation.

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Legal scholars are firm about Cruz’s eligibility. “Of course he’s eligible,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz tells National Review Online. “He’s a natural-born, not a naturalized, citizen.” Eugene Volokh, a professor at the UCLA School of Law and longtime friend of Cruz, agrees, saying the senator was “a citizen at birth, and thus a natural-born citizen — as opposed to a naturalized citizen, which I understand to mean someone who becomes a citizen after birth.”

Federal law extends citizenship beyond those granted it by the 14th Amendment: It confers the privilege on all those born outside of the United States whose parents are both citizens, provided one of them has been “physically present” in the United States for any period of time, as well as all those born outside of the United States to at least one citizen parent who, after the age of 14, has resided in the United States for at least five years. Cruz’s mother, who was born and raised in Delaware, meets the latter requirement, so Cruz himself is undoubtedly an American citizen. No court has ruled what makes a “natural-born citizen,” but there appears to be a consensus that the term refers to those who gain American citizenship by birth rather than by naturalization

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To: WildHighlander57

BTW, be sure you take note of the definitions used in Chapter 12! Some definitions are used in some sub chapters and not in others.


821 posted on 03/31/2013 6:03:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infay. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fantasywriter

Easter blessings to you also, Fantasywriter.


822 posted on 03/31/2013 6:07:09 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Fantasywriter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Real-Ukrainian-Pysanky-Chicken-Pysanka-Hand-made-HQ-from-Roman-Easter-Egg-/130875942945?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e78d06821


823 posted on 03/31/2013 6:09:34 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Fantasywriter

[Best example of what I was looking for was in an ebay listing. :-D ]


824 posted on 03/31/2013 6:10:57 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

It’s a very beautiful egg. To be honest the only eggs I collect are thunder eggs, & then only the scenic ones.


825 posted on 03/31/2013 6:44:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Seizethecarp; DiogenesLamp; Fantasywriter; Jeff Winston
Χριστός ἀνέστη!

826 posted on 03/31/2013 6:58:38 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: Kenny Bunk

He is risen indeed!


827 posted on 03/31/2013 7:01:17 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m not really a collector, but if I wanted to start a collection of something, these pisanki would be a very likely choice.


828 posted on 03/31/2013 7:30:44 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Kenny Bunk
Ἀληθῶς ανέστη!
829 posted on 03/31/2013 7:31:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

There is a lot of artistry in those eggs. Thunder eggs are God’s artistry. I just find them fascinating.


830 posted on 03/31/2013 7:38:11 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Kenny Bunk; All

He is risen indeed!

Happy Easter all y’all

: )


831 posted on 03/31/2013 7:42:55 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Seizethecarp

I’ll see your Rule 803 and raise you a FRE Rule 902! :-)
FEDERAL RULE OF EVIDENCE 902
EVIDENCE THAT IS SELF-AUTHENTICATING

The following items of evidence are self-authenticating; they require no extrinsic evidence of authenticity in order to be admitted:

(1) Domestic Public Documents That Are Sealed and Signed. A document that bears:
(A) a seal purporting to be that of the United States; any state, district, commonwealth, territory, or insular possession of the United States; the former Panama Canal Zone; the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands; a political subdivision of any of these entities; or a department, agency, or officer of any entity named above; and

(B) a signature purporting to be an execution or attestation.


(4) Certified Copies of Public Records. A copy of an official record — or a copy of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if the copy is certified as correct by:
(A) the custodian or another person authorized to make the certification; or
(B) a certificate that complies with Rule 902(1), (2), or (3), a federal statute, or a rule prescribed by the Supreme Court.

With the Certified Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics Letter of Verification, the whitehouse.gov PDF meets the Rule 902 requirements.


832 posted on 03/31/2013 11:36:38 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: philman_36

If a book is entitled “Cats and Dogs,” is the book only about cats? When the title is “Aliens and Nationality” it distinquishes between who, though resident in America is an alien and who possesses American nationality. Those who are not aliens but rather are “Nationals and Citizens of the United States at Birth” is defined in a Section 1401.


833 posted on 03/31/2013 11:48:39 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

From my #813 (modified for grammar):

The code section I posted

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

would be used to check to see if 0 fits into a STATUTORY category.

If he does, therefore he CANNOT be a natural born citizen.


834 posted on 04/01/2013 6:07:02 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fantasywriter
I love it when two of my favorite posters agree. Did KB not fairly accurately state your position, DL? I certainly agree w his interpretation. It explains everything—including the fact that two eyewitnesses to the original ‘birth records’ described them as “handwritten”.

He has nailed it. Yes, this is exactly what I have been postulating since 2008. Obama was adopted by Soetoro, and his original document (whatever it was) was sealed by court order. The one he has released is a replacement created because the original is legally unavailable without a specific court order to release it.

I likewise suspect Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, but Western Canada instead. (It would tie so many things together neatly. )

835 posted on 04/01/2013 6:46:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston
I have decided to attempt to get something useful out of you. Given that you can be counted on to ignore, discount or argue against, in any way possible whatever information could be put before you, it occurs to me that you can be used to help establish the truth by being the harshest critic available. You are motivated to find any hole possible in any information or theory, so i'm going to put that to good use. So here goes.

I wish to first direct your attention to this act passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in 1807.


836 posted on 04/01/2013 6:58:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Kenny Bunk; Red Steel; LucyT; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Fantasywriter; ...

“With the Certified Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics Letter of Verification, the whitehouse.gov PDF meets the Rule 902 requirements.”

False. The HI registrar letter does NOT meet FRE 902 for admission as evidence because NO certified LFBC for Barry has EVER been submitted into evidence in any court and then authenticated by HI officials.

The HI registrar has evasively provided the weasel language authentications without providing the actual certified LFBC to any court or to any state AG! This is very indicative of consciousness of guilt in hiding a forgery, IMO.

The HI registrar letters were ONLY deemed to meet the state-to-state authentication requirements for “full faith and credit” which is NOT “best evidence” that would be required in federal court.

In federal court the prima facie self-authentication of FRE 902 can be challenged if the court can be persuaded that there is a basis for challenge...SUCH AS FORGERY and CRIMINAL COLLUSION of HI official in forgery!

The state Attorneys General of other states requested authentication and were given these letters from HI but NONE of the HI registrar letters stated that the WH pdf image was a “true and correct copy.” The letters only stated that data in the image was the same as on file. This is NOT the same thing as certifying that a copy is a “true and correct copy.”


837 posted on 04/01/2013 9:25:01 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; Nero Germanicus

The letter of verification for MDEC says NOTHING about the validity of the record and NOTHING about actual birth facts.

The State of Hawaii could have a document created YESTERDAY out of thin air which makes these claims, written on toilet paper in crayon.... and that letter of verification would look exactly the same.

That document that MDEC requested is totally worthless, legally speaking. Proves NOTHING. And the fact that the attorneys requested it specifically so that it WOULD be worthless told me immediately that they know this is the best they will ever get, because Onaka had already verified that the record they have for Obama is legally NON-VALID.

Nero Germanicus has had this pointed out to him many, many times. He’s just spouting off what he knows isn’t true. IOW, he is a liar. Deliberately spreading what he knows to be false.


838 posted on 04/01/2013 9:55:28 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Nero Germanicus

If you believe this is a valid equivalence English must be your second language. Otherwise it’s just dishonest.

Aliens refers to a group of people.

Nationality refers to a status.

Cats refers to an animal. So does dogs. NOT the same at all, since neither is a status.

A better comparison would be a chapter entitled ‘Shelties & Shedding’. I.e.: the state of shedding as it pertains to Shetland Sheepdogs.

The idea of entitling a chapter Dogs & Cats is ridiculous on its face. Dogs have many distinct characteristics. So do cats. A chapter that willy nilly attempted to discuss both would be a book—& even then a not very well organized book.

Perhaps you were thinking of a chapter about how dogs & cats interact. So, how DO aliens interact w nationalities? It’s your comparison; I’m sure you have some excellent insights.

Whenever a person in a debate resorts to outright dishonesty it’s a sign they have already lost. That is how I will view your comments henceforth. & if I were Philman, I’d have no more time for your pointless verbiage. But that’s just me.

For the record, yesterday I posted ‘phase’ when I should have posted ‘faze’.

But at least it was an honest mistake.


839 posted on 04/01/2013 9:59:15 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I likewise suspect Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, but Western Canada instead. (It would tie so many things together neatly. )”

Ever since I learned it was Cashill who first posited this possibility I have taken it far more seriously. Cashill is one singularly good researcher, & one of the smartest people looking into Obama’s purposefully hidden background. If Cashill believes western Canada could be the place, there is certainly a possibility he nailed it. He’s accurately nailed so many other aspects of Obama’s fraudulent behavior, if he got one more right it would be par for the course.


840 posted on 04/01/2013 10:03:58 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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