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Paul fires back: Sens. McCain, Graham think 'whole world is a battlefield'
The Hill ^ | March 7, 2013 | Daniel Strauss

Posted on 03/07/2013 12:51:49 PM PST by jazusamo

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blasted fellow GOP Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Thursday, saying the two “think the whole world is a battlefield.”

Paul criticized the hawkish senators for thinking the laws of war should take precedence over the Bill of Rights. The two had criticized Paul’s statements about drone policy during the Kentucky Republican’s 13-hour filibuster on Thursday.

“They think the whole world is a battlefield including America and that the laws of war should apply,” Paul said in an interview on Fox News about McCain and Graham, who had described Paul’s comments about drones as “ridiculous.”

“The laws of war don't involve due process so when they ask you for an attorney you tell them to shut up. That's not my understanding of the way America works,” Paul told Fox. “I don't think the laws of war apply to America, I think the Bill of Rights do and I think it's a disservice to our soldiers that our senators up there arguing that the Bill of Rights aren't important.

Paul said whether drones can be used against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil is a “very serious question” and was at the root of Wednesday’s filibuster, which delayed a final confirmation vote on John Brennan, President Obama’s nominee to lead the CIA.

“This was a very serious question. It was a question that took a month and a half to get an answer to and I so I would argue and I think a lot of the public would agree with me, both on the right and the left, that what we ask was a very serious question and it's a question that we finally got an answer to,” Paul said.

Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday responded to Paul in a letter that said the U.S. does not have the authority to conduct a drone attack against a U.S. citizen on American soil.

“Hooray, for 13 hours yesterday we asked them that question. And so there is a result and a victory,” Paul said after the letter was read to him during the Fox interview. “Under duress and under public humiliation the White House will respond and do the right thing.”

The answer just took a filibuster that lasted almost half a day, Paul added.

“So now, after 13 hours of filibuster, we're proud to announce that the president is not going to kill unarmed Americans on American soil,” Paul continued. “My next question is why did it take so long, why is it so hard and why would a president so jealously guard power that they were afraid to say this but I am glad and I think that the answer does answer my question.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Kentucky; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
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To: jazusamo

Good on ya, Dr. Paul.

Personally, I still think he was too polite about it. I’d have much preferred him to say something to those two clowns along the lines “crouch down and lick the jackboot that kicks you”..

But that’s just me.


81 posted on 03/07/2013 2:36:57 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

ROTFL.
GOOD to see you.

God bless and keep you, sweetie pie!


82 posted on 03/07/2013 2:44:57 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: NFHale

Paul asked the proper question. There is a scenario where an American citizen could be involved in combat against America, on US soil, that would require a miliary - not a police - response. It’s not beyond imagination that a heavily terrorist cell could cross the porous southern border and engage in an attack on US interests, whether private or public. If the military had to be called in to quell such an attack, they could hardly be expected to start singling out American citizen “Mohammed Hassan” from the Mideast terrorists who are with him. That is different than an American who is on U.S. soil and known to have engaged in previous terrorist attacks against US interests, in which case he would have to be arrested.


83 posted on 03/07/2013 2:45:56 PM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: TigersEye

Those Old White Flag Republicans are truly traitors to our Constitution!

You nailed it last night with your keen observation and Holder was forced to come through this morning with “his White Flag.”


84 posted on 03/07/2013 2:47:24 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: cdcdawg

ROTFL.

Yeah... that would work too.


85 posted on 03/07/2013 2:55:06 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m not anti war by any means but I see no reason to spend decades at war and no reason at all to be involved in other nations internal conflicts.

I'm not anti-war either. I'm against going to war if you're not going to fight it to win as soon as possible and then go home.

We forgot how to do that after 1950.

86 posted on 03/07/2013 2:55:09 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: SatinDoll

GOOD to see you!
God bless and keep you, dearest SatinDoll.


87 posted on 03/07/2013 2:56:38 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sirius Lee

No one in the Bonus Army was shot or killed in the eviction.

A baby died of tear gas.


88 posted on 03/07/2013 2:56:46 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: jazusamo; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.

h/t to martin_fierro for the graphic

89 posted on 03/07/2013 2:57:24 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: jazusamo

Do you know what game managers in Africa do with old bull elephants who attack the younger bulls?

They shoot them.


90 posted on 03/07/2013 3:00:46 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: upchuck

ROFL!! That’s the funniest and most appropriate ping list graphic I’ve seen.


91 posted on 03/07/2013 3:04:03 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: conservaterian

If we can find a terrorist with a drone in the U.S., getting plenty of boots on the ground to stop him is not a problem.

When it comes to terrorists in Waziristan or Yemen or Pakistan, on the other hand...

Drones are a tool best used when the risk to your troops is too high to go in.


92 posted on 03/07/2013 3:04:25 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: jazusamo

I’m so glad that Paul brought the RINO war out into the open. Low information Republican voters didn’t know about the divide.

I’m also glad that he’s doing a victory dance on Zero’s head...

-— “Under duress and under public humiliation the White House will respond and do the right thing.” -—

This will make the preezy vewy, vewy, angwy, and will lead to a tantrum and another mistake.


93 posted on 03/07/2013 3:07:46 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: conservaterian

-— Sorry Rand, but if some terrorist (American citizen or not) is heading to a city or major sports arena, etc. to set off a nuke and we can take him out with a drone I say go for it. -—

No one is disputing that. The hypothetical example was the droning of an accused terrorist sitting in a cafe.


94 posted on 03/07/2013 3:16:41 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: EricT.
I'm not anti-war either. I'm against going to war if you're not going to fight it to win as soon as possible and then go home.

We forgot how to do that after 1950.

Exactly.

95 posted on 03/07/2013 3:16:55 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: jazusamo

All FReepers that said we had to vote for McCain please raise your hand.


96 posted on 03/07/2013 3:18:55 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: onyx
"...Holder was forced to come through this morning with “his White Flag.”

I knew 0bama's ego would compel him to respond and that same narcissism caused him to send out a subordinate to do it. As if that somehow means he didn't respond. He has the mind of a smart aleck 8 yr old which makes him very predictable. But 0bamugabe still looks weak because reality overrules his fantasy.

After having to have the answer dragged out him who believes that he really means it that he wouldn't order the assassination of an American citizen on U.S. soil?

And McCain?

McCain says:

"Why don't you shut your political pie hole?"

Stifling the www? Online Freedom of Speech Act (H.R. 1606)

"1606 is needed because federal courts have ordered the Federal Election Commission to regulate "electioneering communications" on the Internet because of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (McCain-Feingold). If H.R. 1606 fails to become law, your Web site or blog could be shut down for the 30 days prior to a primary election and the 60 days prior to a general election should you express "electioneering communications."

John McCain, enemy of free speech

Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

97 posted on 03/07/2013 3:19:18 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: longtermmemmory
McStain takes home Zer0 pork to AZ.
But the AZ GOP is one heck of a powerful Good Old Boys machine.
98 posted on 03/07/2013 3:21:44 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: noinfringers2

Thank you for posting your response, I went through to see if anyone had cleared it up for soldierdad.

What you said is exactly what Rand covered over and over in those 13 hours. I watched a good 10 hours of it and knew what he was stating.

Btw, thanks for your service :)


99 posted on 03/07/2013 3:31:17 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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100 posted on 03/07/2013 3:33:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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