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Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness
news.com.au ^ | 22 Feb 13 | Clifford Fram

Posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:26 AM PST by Drew68

THE grieving process is in danger of being branded a medical condition if a mourner feels sad for more than two weeks and consults a GP, according to an international authority on death and dying.

At present, mourners can feel sad for two months before being told they have a mental disorder, says Professor Dale Larson. Decades ago, a diagnosis could be made after a year.

In a keynote address at an Australian Psychological Society conference in Melbourne on Saturday, Prof Larson will express his anger about the American Psychiatric Association's new diagnostic manual, DSM 5, which is used in many countries including Australia and New Zealand.

The manual, to be published in May, allows a diagnosis of depression after two weeks of grieving.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apa; depression; disorders; dsm; grief; mentaldisorder; mentalillness; mourning; mourningperiod; psychiatry; psychology; youmakebunnycry
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To: Biggirl

I’m not saying it’s wrong to pray for someone but there are those who believe that prayer will do away with mental illness.


61 posted on 02/23/2013 12:32:05 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Biggirl

I’m not saying it’s wrong to pray for someone but there are those who believe that prayer will do away with mental illness.


62 posted on 02/23/2013 12:32:23 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: G Larry

I’m with you...stay strong. As others have pointed out the amount of “disorders” and the “treatment time” seem to line up ALMOST PERFECTLY with the available insurance.

No insurance, no illness, except for real clinical cases like bipolar (which is, maybe, 1% of the people being “treated” at any one time).


63 posted on 02/23/2013 12:34:29 PM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Drew68

I’ve been in grievous mourning since November 6.


64 posted on 02/23/2013 12:38:44 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: EBH

I know what the thread is about. I was responding to those who vilify psychiatrists and psychiatry.


65 posted on 02/23/2013 12:39:59 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Beagle8U
You are aware that this is just BS to ban people from owning guns?

That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read this article.

I think liberals have figured out that wholesale gun bans just aren't going to happen so the workaround will be to prohibit as many people as possible from being able to legally possess them.

66 posted on 02/23/2013 12:42:41 PM PST by Drew68
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To: BitWielder1
A two week time limit to mourn the loss of a child. Barbaric!

Exactly. Still mourning the loss of a child or spouse 15 days later? You're a nutter! Hand over your guns!

67 posted on 02/23/2013 12:48:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Having lost both my parents and an older sister with whom I was very close I know something about grieving. In two weeks you have barely gotten over the funeral and all legal details of the death, and are beginning to look at issues about the estate and taxes. Family holidays closely following the death are especially hard. The grieving process takes months before things finally sink in and you can come to grips with losing a loved one. Even years after you sometimes think of them and feel a sense of loss. Surely a grief that takes over ones life and clouds out all else for months or even years is something in need of therapy. But to weeks and done is ridiculous.


68 posted on 02/23/2013 12:51:20 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Drew68

Grief can last for years, but it certainly isn’t a mental disorder. Yes, we know why “our” shrinks would want to classify people and it all has to do with control.


69 posted on 02/23/2013 12:52:13 PM PST by madison10
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To: CodeToad; G Larry

Wow.

So “See a Priest, get religion, pray” as advice about how to deal with grief makes G Larry “One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”???” and “an idiot”?!

Are you on the right forum?!


70 posted on 02/23/2013 1:10:24 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Making grief a mental disorder will be a bonanza for drug companies that I don’t see most Americans falling for. Be thankful this isn’t the 1950s when over 30% of families are said to have admitted a member to a mental institution. We aren’t living in a society of overcrowded ware-houses where tormented people waited to die. But with more rights than ever, patients also need to have ultimate control over the process and take responsibility for their own lives, happiness and futures.


71 posted on 02/23/2013 1:17:38 PM PST by erlayman
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To: CodeToad

One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”??? / You are an idiot.


Your croaking is more than a little “off”..
Lay off the Frogerol.. your croaks are slurring..
You seem to full of Toad Stool..


72 posted on 02/23/2013 1:21:38 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: CodeToad

73 posted on 02/23/2013 1:25:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: USMCPOP

My kiddo was not in the military but was killed in an auto accident 10 years ago and I still feel the loss as much as if it were yesterday. Perhaps it is because of the unnatural suddenness with which some deaths occur. I also work in the mental health field. IMO, there is a huge difference between sadness, depression and grief. Parents are not supposed to bury their children and must reach within themselves with God’s help to find a way to cope with such a tremendous loss. For some psychotherapy may be useful. I do not believe that anyone has the right or sufficient wisdom to interject their timeline on the healing process.

Many of us who are older are also grieving because of what is happening to our once great country. IMO one must suffer from a mental illness in order to be a liberal. Too bad for the rest of us that no pill has been manufactured yet to correct this pervasive condition.


74 posted on 02/23/2013 1:32:55 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Are you that trusting of doctors and gov? My Mother was almost killed twice by govt regulations.”

Then stop seeing doctors. The world can use less idiots that think doctors are the cause of their problems.


75 posted on 02/23/2013 1:40:27 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: G Larry

“Psychiatry has largely been abused as a secular replacement for faith and friends. Classifying it as “medical science” is a bit generous, as they have poisoned far more children than they’ve helped.”

Toal BS. Lack of parenting has driven many a person to need professional help but many have clinical medical issues. To cast such a broad net is just stupidity and ignorance brought about by angry emotions, just like liberals do about guns and other subjects.


76 posted on 02/23/2013 1:42:26 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: savagesusie

“Psychiatrists are how the gulag operated and the Stasi”

Gulags used guns so maybe by your ridiculous logic we should ban guns too. Just stupid, plain old stupid.


77 posted on 02/23/2013 1:43:33 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
And never allowed to own a gun!

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

78 posted on 02/23/2013 1:44:00 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: piytar

“Are you on the right forum?!”

Are you??


79 posted on 02/23/2013 1:45:09 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: hosepipe

“Your croaking is more than a little “off”..
Lay off the Frogerol.. your croaks are slurring..
You seem to full of Toad Stool..”

Posting drunk again? Maybe DU is missing a DUmmy?


80 posted on 02/23/2013 1:45:57 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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