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Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com ^ | 02-08-13 | By Tracy Connor

Posted on 02/08/2013 12:15:18 PM PST by Red Badger

A mother and daughter who were mistakenly shot by Los Angeles police hunting for rampage suspect Christopher Dorner had no warning before bullets started whizzing through their newspaper-delivery truck, their lawyer said Friday.

“No command, no instruction, no warning. They just opened fire on them,” said Glen Jonas, who is representing Emma Hernandez, 71, and Margie Carranza, 47, in possible legal action against the LAPD.

“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”

Both women survived. Hernandez, shot in the back, was in good condition Friday. Her daughter suffered a hand injury during the shooting and is now physically fine, but emotionally scarred, Jonas said.

The LAPD admits the predawn Thursday shooting was a case of mistaken identity that unfolded while police were guarding the Torrance home of someone named in a manifesto that ex-cop Dorner posted online about his twisted plans to avenge his firing.

Chief Charlie Beck said the officers saw a vehicle that matched the description of Dorner’s, driving through the dark streets with no headlights – and a “police-involved shooting” ensued.

Jonas said the women’s blue Toyota Tacoma looked nothing like Dorner’s dark-gray Nissan Titan, but that even if it had been a match, the police should not have fired on it.

“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”

The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.

He said he expects the city will offer his clients a substantial payout; if not, he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copbashersonfr; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; partisanmediashills
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To: Rio

Did not signal for a turn/changing lanes.
Tail/tag light out. Anything to get them off the hook and shift the blame.


141 posted on 02/08/2013 3:39:09 PM PST by sport
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To: Red Badger

I think Toyota might have a new slogan! Bullet proof trucks!


142 posted on 02/08/2013 4:54:22 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Red Badger
The ex-cop they are looking to assassinate may be right after all...........

Personally, I have no doubt in my mind that he is.

I'm not commenting on his methods though.

143 posted on 02/08/2013 4:54:54 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Red Badger

A citizen would be jailed for attempted murder.


144 posted on 02/08/2013 5:02:32 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: P-Marlowe

What entity is going to press criminal charges? The local DA, or a federal prosecutor?


145 posted on 02/08/2013 5:28:16 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: P-Marlowe
"Luckily for everyone nobody was killed."

Actually, the cops would have been luckier if the women had been killed. Then we would be hearing accounts of "threatening gestures," and "furtive movements."

With the women still around, it won't be as easy to propogate those story lines.

146 posted on 02/08/2013 5:34:05 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Cboldt

Depends on whether the cops were white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Lesbian, Gay....

If they are white men, I’d say the LA DA, the State Attorney General, the Federal Justice Department and the World Court.


147 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:49 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Thanks for clarifying. There was also a situation where the Torrance police shot at some car, thinking it was Dorner, but they didn’t hit anything, I guess. So, now I’m clear on which event was which.

There’s a house near my son’s school that had cops in front of it all day, guarding it. He was told at school that it is the home of an LAPD officer. Maybe it was one of the people named in the manifesto. I don’t know. But it doesn’t seem like it was necessary to have three cop cars taking up space all day, with cops standing around in the driveway, looking tough, yet bored.


148 posted on 02/08/2013 9:28:22 PM PST by married21
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To: Lurker

Agree ....


149 posted on 02/08/2013 9:29:52 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Red Badger

Those 2 women won’t ever have to deliver another newspaper, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL RETIRE THEM, with the settlement they will recieve!!


150 posted on 02/08/2013 9:39:40 PM PST by dalereed
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To: crazydad

You are right. Those NWA tunes and other emerging rap spurred on the LA riots.


151 posted on 02/09/2013 2:01:22 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: GeronL

Wasn’t there a case in New York City recently where the police shot seven bystanders?


152 posted on 02/10/2013 6:40:21 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

whoa.. was there?


153 posted on 02/10/2013 1:18:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Apparently I got it wrong. It wasn’t seven… It was nine.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25/nypd-shooting-bystander-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire/


154 posted on 02/10/2013 5:39:34 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Wow. How soon will the entire PD drop by and shoot someone up?


155 posted on 02/10/2013 5:42:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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