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DHS adds another 200,000 rounds to its 2 billion round stockpile
Examiner.com ^ | January 4, 2013 | Ryan Keller

Posted on 02/01/2013 10:56:33 AM PST by Perseverando

Last year, it was reported that the Department of Homeland Security had purchased 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition of various calibers for reasons that the agency refuses to reveal. On Wednesday, the DHS announced that it would acquire another 200,000 rounds from a company known as Evian Group, Inc.

The DHS put out a solicitation for the purchase on the FedBizOps.gov Web site on Dec. 17 for the agency’s Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, requesting .40 caliber hollow point rounds, Federal Ammunition of 1,000 rounds in 200 cases.

Not only is the reason for the agency’s stockpiling of nearly 2 billion rounds of ammo shrouded in mystery, but so too is the Evian Group. James Smith of Prepper Podcast did an investigation into the company and found some odd facts which he reported in an article on Thursday.

For one, “It seems that the Evian Group was formed on December 12, 2012, just 5 days before the announcement of the solicitation,” writes Smith.

The price that the agency paid for the rounds is suspect too, according to Smith.

“The contract for 200,000 rounds was $45,758, which boils down to about $0.21 per round. And to be quiet (sic) honest, that (is) a really good price. As in, unheard of good price.”

After comparing the prices for the rounds from Evian and other companies on two different Web sites, Smith found “that the price was less than half of what the other guys are charging.”

Also suspicious is the company’s address of 105 South Eastern Ave, Las Vegas, Nev. After searching Google Maps, Smith found that the building at the listed address doesn’t appear to be the kind of place that could produce that much ammunition and then

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; cw2; dhs; efad; guncontrol; secondamendment; shtf; styg
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Hey Guys, please note this article is dated January 4th, 2013. I ran across an article on WND a little while ago that sourced this Examiner article.

I can't imagine this article has languished since January 4th without someone posting it on FR for discussion.

Anyway, I would appreciate any input on this story. I could not spot any previous articles on FR referencing information in this article.

Also if you have time and feel like doing some internet research, there seems to be some very "mysterious goings on" regarding everything about this contract, Evian Group, its officers, etc., etc., etc.

1 posted on 02/01/2013 10:56:39 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

My question is what contingency plan is driving these purchases? The number of rounds being purchased is driven by some anticipated need that leads to a bureaucratic decision.

see also:

August 28, 2012
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History of DHS Ammunition Purchases
By James Smith

August 28, 2012. This article is to outline purchases by the Department of Human resources since August 2002, a ten year span...

link:
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32012/history-of-dhs-ammunition-purchases517/


2 posted on 02/01/2013 11:00:02 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

I’ll bet the author screwed up and “DHS” is really Department of Homeland Security” (aka, the Interior Ministry) instead of Human resources.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 11:01:52 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Perseverando

Evain backwords is naive. Hmmm??????


4 posted on 02/01/2013 11:03:40 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Must have: Ammo, toilet paper.


5 posted on 02/01/2013 11:07:51 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

No, look again. It’s “niave.”


6 posted on 02/01/2013 11:13:44 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: rktman

LOTS of toilet paper. And paper towels.

Also, that’s not a hollow point in the image.

“These aren’t the droids you’re looking for...”


7 posted on 02/01/2013 11:15:48 AM PST by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 11:18:24 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Perseverando

The article is a little confusing. It states Federal Ammo and then talks about this Evian outfit possibly being the manufacturer. Must be some sort of a shell corporation.

21 cents a round for 40 cal. hollow point ammo does not sound like a legit price.


9 posted on 02/01/2013 11:18:54 AM PST by bereanway
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To: theBuckwheat
My question is what contingency plan is driving these purchases? The number of rounds being purchased is driven by some anticipated need that leads to a bureaucratic decision.

This keeps coming up, I will try to put it to rest. Just one example: the Border Patrol has over 21,000 agents. Each agent is required to qualify each quarter with their duty carry firearm. The qualification course is 72 rounds. In addition each agent is given 150 rounds of practice ammo each quarter.

That is just the BP there is also CBP officers, ICE, protective service and a hole host of others.

It sounds like a lot of ammo but they burn through it quickly. Next year they will put out an RFP for more just like every year. This really is a non issue.

10 posted on 02/01/2013 11:24:40 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: bereanway

Yep, noticed that too. There’s a lot of information left out or unclear in this month old article.

For example, how come no one has found any new pertinent information on this contract? No updates? Now that’s suspicious.

Note the contract is only for 200K, not 200 million or some other massive amount. But it is a nice little contract to help “spread the wealth around.”


11 posted on 02/01/2013 11:26:34 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando
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12 posted on 02/01/2013 11:27:37 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: theBuckwheat
My guess is that government is buying the ammo so that we the people can't. It's a form of gun control. If the government can't legally seize our firearms, then it will seize the ammo through purchase contracts.
13 posted on 02/01/2013 11:31:59 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Perseverando

They’re just making sure they have enough ammo to supply their buyers in Operation Fast and Furious.


14 posted on 02/01/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: usurper

To me, it’s not the amount, it’s the company they are purchasing it from. Formed in December 2012??? And now they can supply this much ammo? And Las Vegas? Tin foil time.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 11:34:12 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: tickedoffnow

Sneaky govt. Stealth hollow points disguised as fmjfn. Thank goodness it isn’t one of those evil “high power” .223’s used in “black” machineguns huh?

Molon labe.


16 posted on 02/01/2013 11:44:59 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Perseverando

A LEO recently told me that hollow points are not used in target practice because they are way too expensive for that.

Why did the DHS purchase 1.8 billion rounds of .40 cal hollow point rounds?

If everyone would ask their rep this question it would at least let them know that we know and that we expect answers.

Why aren’t our loyal conservative radio talk show hosts harping on this issue every day until this is addressed by investigative committees and highlighted in the news? If the radio conservatives are too scared to mention it on the air then we are screwed.

Don’t wait for the investigative journalists to say anything about it. They get paid by the same fabian communist globalists cadre who ordered the purchase of these rounds.


17 posted on 02/01/2013 11:50:38 AM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Take note of all of the collectivist changes that we have been experiencing. When is Enough ENOUGH?)
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To: Enough is ENOUGH

Correction: 1.6 billion + 200 thousand.

They are not for target practice for the reason I stated above.


18 posted on 02/01/2013 11:56:27 AM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Take note of all of the collectivist changes that we have been experiencing. When is Enough ENOUGH?)
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To: Perseverando

“Hollow-Point”ammunition is banned by The Geneva Conventions for use against ENEMY combatants,but I guess they are alright to use against Law-Abiding Americans who just might want to take their country back?????????????????????


19 posted on 02/01/2013 11:57:00 AM PST by bandleader
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To: rktman
Thank goodness it isn’t one of those evil “high power” .223’s used in “black” machineguns huh?

I knew it!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist including this pic after seeing your comment.)

20 posted on 02/01/2013 12:00:32 PM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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