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Sunstein: Obama Wants 'Second Bill of Rights' (modeled after 1944 FDR State of the Union speech)
Big Government ^ | 28 Jan 2013 | by Breitbart News

Posted on 01/29/2013 10:48:42 AM PST by drewh

Former Obama administration regulatory czar Cass Sunstein has published an op-ed: that the president wants a "second Bill of Rights" alongside the existing one.

Sunstein located the source of Obama's inspiration in Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1944 State of the Union address, rather than the South African constitution--though the American academics whose writings inspired South Africa's ambitious Bill of Rights could well have taken Roosevelt's proposals as their foundation.

Roosevelt's Second Bill of Rights--not a list of constitutional amendments, but policy goals--was as follows:

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: billofrights; casssunstein; fdr; idiocy; lunacy; paternalism; secondbillofrights; sunstein
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To: drewh
What's different from this bogus stupid list and the crap the old style communists use to spew? Really, this stuff has been debunked in every country it's been tried it.

What a waste of time even thinking about it.,

41 posted on 01/29/2013 11:25:19 AM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: MrB
That is the real issue. That is the issue that will continue in this country when these poor tongues of Judge Douglas and myself shall be silent. It is the eternal struggle between these two principles -- right and wrong -- throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time, and will ever continue to struggle. The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, 'You work and toil and earn bread, and I'll eat it.' No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.

42 posted on 01/29/2013 11:27:29 AM PST by jdege
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To: drewh

Once again, conservatives like Levin, Wilkow, Rush and us were years ahead of the game on who Obama is, and what his goals are. We’ve heard the audio of Obama himself saying it in a radio interview a decade ago. Now, his surrogates are confirming what we know.


43 posted on 01/29/2013 11:29:24 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: drewh
And by what prior right does this one insignificant man, except in his own arrogant view of himself and of his fellow "progressives," derive the "right" or privilege to impose his own definition of "rights" on his fellow Americans?

From the web site of "Constitution.org" come these these excellent and principled words:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." — C.S. Lewis

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." — Daniel Webster

And, from Justice Joseph Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution. . . ," are excerpts from his "CONCLUDING REMARKS":

"We have now reviewed all the provisions of the original constitution of the United States, and all the amendments, which have been incorporated into it. And, here, the task originally proposed in these Commentaries is brought to a close. Many reflections naturally crowd upon the mind at such a moment; many grateful recollections of the past; and many anxious thoughts of the future. The past is secure. It is unalterable. The seal of eternity is upon it. The wisdom, which it has displayed, and the blessings, which it has bestowed, cannot be obscured; neither can they be debased by human folly, or human infirmity. The future is that, which may well awaken the most earnest solicitude, both for the virtue and the permanence of our republic. The fate of other republics, their rise, their progress, their decline, and their fall, are written but too legibly on the pages of history, if indeed they were not continually before us in the startling fragments of their ruins. They have perished; and perished by their own hands. Prosperity has enervated them, corruption has debased them, and a venal populace has consummated their destruction. Alternately the prey of military chieftains at home, and of ambitious invaders from abroad, they have been sometimes cheated out of their liberties by servile demagogues; sometimes betrayed into a surrender of them by false patriots; and sometimes they have willingly sold them for a price to the despot, who has bidden highest for his victims. They have disregarded the warning voice of their best statesmen; and have persecuted, and driven from office their truest friends. They have listened to the fawning sycophant, and the base calumniator of the wise and the good. They have reverenced power more in its high abuses and summary movements, than in its calm and constitutional energy, when it dispensed blessings with an unseen, but liberal hand. They have surrendered to faction, what belonged to the country. Patronage and party, the triumph of a leader, and the discontents of a day, have outweighed all solid principles and institutions of government. Such are the melancholy lessons of the past history of republics down to our own.

. . . .

" If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the Union, then they will have accomplished all, that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget, that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of fife, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

For decades, the so-called "progressive" movement has brought about a censorship of the founding principles and ideas from the nation's textbooks and public discourse. Now, believing they can redefine and reframe the meaning of the Constitution to mean what they wish it to mean, and denying the power of the unique idea of Creator-endowed rights, they, through spokesman, the President, seek to impose new definitions in order to accumulate power in government--not in THE PEOPLE, where, according to Justice Story and the Founders, the power appropriately resides.

44 posted on 01/29/2013 11:30:30 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: rlmorel

FDR gave us the Ponzi Scheme of Social Security. It may destroy the country about 100 years after its inception.

FDR also gave us Employer Based Healthcare, because it was tax avoidance and wage price control avoidance. We know how that worked out.


45 posted on 01/29/2013 11:31:42 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: drewh
And by what prior right does this one insignificant man, except in his own arrogant view of himself and of his fellow "progressives," derive the "right" or privilege to impose his own definition of "rights" on his fellow Americans?

From the web site of "Constitution.org" come these these excellent and principled words:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." — C.S. Lewis

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." — Daniel Webster

And, from Justice Joseph Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution. . . ," are excerpts from his "CONCLUDING REMARKS":

"We have now reviewed all the provisions of the original constitution of the United States, and all the amendments, which have been incorporated into it. And, here, the task originally proposed in these Commentaries is brought to a close. Many reflections naturally crowd upon the mind at such a moment; many grateful recollections of the past; and many anxious thoughts of the future. The past is secure. It is unalterable. The seal of eternity is upon it. The wisdom, which it has displayed, and the blessings, which it has bestowed, cannot be obscured; neither can they be debased by human folly, or human infirmity. The future is that, which may well awaken the most earnest solicitude, both for the virtue and the permanence of our republic. The fate of other republics, their rise, their progress, their decline, and their fall, are written but too legibly on the pages of history, if indeed they were not continually before us in the startling fragments of their ruins. They have perished; and perished by their own hands. Prosperity has enervated them, corruption has debased them, and a venal populace has consummated their destruction. Alternately the prey of military chieftains at home, and of ambitious invaders from abroad, they have been sometimes cheated out of their liberties by servile demagogues; sometimes betrayed into a surrender of them by false patriots; and sometimes they have willingly sold them for a price to the despot, who has bidden highest for his victims. They have disregarded the warning voice of their best statesmen; and have persecuted, and driven from office their truest friends. They have listened to the fawning sycophant, and the base calumniator of the wise and the good. They have reverenced power more in its high abuses and summary movements, than in its calm and constitutional energy, when it dispensed blessings with an unseen, but liberal hand. They have surrendered to faction, what belonged to the country. Patronage and party, the triumph of a leader, and the discontents of a day, have outweighed all solid principles and institutions of government. Such are the melancholy lessons of the past history of republics down to our own.

. . . .

" If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the Union, then they will have accomplished all, that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget, that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of fife, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them."

For decades, the so-called "progressive" movement has brought about a censorship of the founding principles and ideas from the nation's textbooks and public discourse. Now, believing they can redefine and reframe the meaning of the Constitution to mean what they wish it to mean, and denying the power of the unique idea of Creator-endowed rights, they, through spokesman, the President, seek to impose new definitions in order to accumulate power in government--not in THE PEOPLE, where, according to Justice Story and the Founders, the power appropriately resides.

46 posted on 01/29/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: drewh
It might as well say "Communist goals for America" on the top. This is quite scary, and basically blames all inequality on those who have earned more. There is no 'right' to health. Health is sometimes determined by genetics, sometimes by random effects, and often by personal choice (being very overweight, smoking). You can't legislate equal health. The right to earn 'enough' depends on who is defining what 'enough' means, and who is paying the 'salaries'. Generally, in traditional America, unless you inherited wealth, if you wind up earning more than someone else it's a good bet that you worked harder than they did somewhere along the line, and/or took risks or made sacrifices that they didn't. Assuring equal outcome despite unequal effort is evil.
47 posted on 01/29/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: jdege

Everyone will love this:

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm

Note, the “copybook headings” were pithy truths and proverbs that were written at the top of the copybooks of school kids.


48 posted on 01/29/2013 11:33:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: drewh

A right is something that you exercise WITHOUT needing the input, effort or support of others. For example, you have the right to speak your mind, but you do NOT have the right to make someone publish your book.

Almost everyone of these so called “rights” falls into the latter category.


49 posted on 01/29/2013 11:33:20 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: drewh

Methinks some or actually most of these infinge on some of those enshrined in the actual Bill of Rights. Damn. What have we allowed to happen here?


50 posted on 01/29/2013 11:33:50 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: Parmenio

And I worry about how much support such a movement would receive. Personally, I know a Gen-X couple who consider themselves Republicans who think this 2nd Bill of Rights is just dandy.


51 posted on 01/29/2013 11:35:00 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: drewh
John Galt, please pick up the white courtesy phone....

Directive 10-289:

"In the name of the general welfare," read Wesley Mouch, "to protect the people's security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the national emergency that--

"Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the nation.

"Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under pentalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

"Point Three. All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift by means of Gift Certificates to be signed voluntarily by the owners of all such patents and copyrights. The Unification Board shall then license the use of such patents and copyrights to all applicants, equally and without discrimination, for the purpose of eliminating monopolistic practices, discarding obsolete products and making the best available to the whole nation. No trademarks, brand names or copyrighted titles shall be used. Every formerly patented product shall be known by a new name and sold by all manufacturers under the same name, such name to be selected by the Unification Board. All private trademarks and brand names are hereby abolished.

"Point Four. No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufacturerd or sold afer the date of this directive. The Office of Patents and Copyrights is hereby suspended.

"Point Five. Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as it, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more and no less. The year to be known as the Basic or Yardstick Year is to be the year ending on the date of this directive. Over or under production shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Barod.

"Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less. Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.

"Point Seven. All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive.

"Point Eight. All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisionswill be final."

52 posted on 01/29/2013 11:38:49 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: drewh
If the assclown wants a "second bill of rights", it ought to pass these rights VIA THE METHOD PROVIDED BY THE CONSTITUTION!

Since the assclown has never understood the Constitution, read about it here:

U.S. Constitution - Article 5

Article 5 - Amendment

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

53 posted on 01/29/2013 11:45:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: drewh

So if this becomes a reality and Obama doesn’t get me a decent house can I impeach him for failing to obey the constitution?

Oh wait the libs don’t respect the constitution anyways, so what happens when they fail to follow the new amendments?????


54 posted on 01/29/2013 11:46:56 AM PST by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I want a small mansion, a houseboat and a new car .... wait, this isn’t a dream thread?

You're not doing it right. You need to say, "I have a right to a small mansion, a right to a houseboat, a right to a new car." How can anyone try to take those rights from you?

55 posted on 01/29/2013 11:54:58 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: drewh

The right to live as a parasite off the production of others without being made to pay anything back to the producers. Gimme!


56 posted on 01/29/2013 12:04:32 PM PST by driftless2
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To: andy58-in-nh
I just read Agenda 21, and your post is reminding me alarmingly of it, Andy. Eek.
57 posted on 01/29/2013 12:26:43 PM PST by jehardy
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To: drewh

all they have to do is redefine “adequate” and “decent” down to such a level that we are all miserable and POOF! all goals have been met!


58 posted on 01/29/2013 12:29:44 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: drewh; Parmenio
FDR was good at ginning up "substitute rights" to replace the real thing. The "four freedoms" were all, as someone once pointed out long ago, "freedom from" -- which does not describe a freedom, but merely a condition; and of course FDR always worked in a compromise to someone's real freedom, in everything he did. He was the original cuckoo of American freedom -- after Lincoln. And Hamilton, who publicly despised the Bill of Rights.
59 posted on 01/29/2013 3:18:38 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: GOPJ
What's different from this bogus stupid list and the crap the old style communists use to spew?

That was Orwell's main warning about the Communists, after the scale fell from his eyes and he had to flee their show-trial posse in Spain: their deceptive and tactical use of language, to clothe loathesome purposes.

60 posted on 01/29/2013 3:22:02 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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