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Fiscal cliff in New Year's limbo: House Republicans are demanding more federal spending cuts
Newser / The Associated Press ^ | January 1, 2013 | David Espo and Alan Fram

Posted on 01/01/2013 2:50:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Emergency legislation to avoid the economy-threatening fiscal cliff ran into vehement New Year's Day opposition from House Republicans, casting doubt on the divided government's ability to prevent widespread tax increases and painful, across-the-board federal spending cuts.

"I do not support the bill. We are looking, though, for the best path forward," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., declared after a closed-door meeting of his party's rank and file.

While Speaker John Boehner took no public position, an attempt to add spending cuts was all but certain before the leadership called for a final House vote on the measure that cleared the Senate hours earlier in a pre-dawn vote of 89-8...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: boehner; congress; ericcantor; fiscalcliff; gop; johnboehner; obama; oh; ohio; republicans; unemployment; va; virginia; welfare
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this passes the House, everyone registered Republican should switch their voter registration to Independent. They are choosing to ignore and alienate us anyway. Maybe doing this en masse will help reinforce the message that we are tired of their crap and are looking for more serious representation.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 3:29:23 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: smoothsailing

The House would have to cut 330 billion right off the top,
just to remove the pork the senate added.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 3:30:49 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all a game, a shell game. None of these people are for fixing what ails this Country, they're more concerned who gets the blame for the inevitable calamity we all know is coming.

Eff em all.

23 posted on 01/01/2013 3:36:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

I’m retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%. That would mean everything including defense, social programs and all government salaries etc. In the long run such a cut would be good for me...


24 posted on 01/01/2013 3:38:26 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: tennmountainman
The House would have to cut 330 billion right off the top, just to remove the pork the senate added.

Then cut another $1.2 trillion this year and every successive year just to not add PRINCIPLE to the national debt. Never mind pay down the national debt.

25 posted on 01/01/2013 3:40:41 PM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Democrat_media

“Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121”

All the mailboxes are full. What a surprise—NOT.


26 posted on 01/01/2013 3:40:54 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't forget the Senate bill has $200 Billion in new spending for extending unemployment for another year.

We have spend 3/4 of a Trillion dollars since 2008.....paying people not to work.

Take that out of the bill, and then let it pass.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 3:52:39 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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28 posted on 01/01/2013 3:54:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Democrat_media

No ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Deal? 44% Blame GOP, 36% Obama

Most voters still want President Obama and Congress to avoid the “fiscal cliff” of big tax hikes and automatic across-the-board spending cuts scheduled to kick in next Tuesday, but fewer than ever think a deal is likely. Voters tend to blame congressional Republicans more than the president for the impasse.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/december_2012/no_fiscal_cliff_deal_44_blame_gop_36_obama

How can Dems control 2/3 of the government, but get less than half the blame?

Answer: a complicit socialist media presstitutes (like Administration Propaganda) runs cover for them.


29 posted on 01/01/2013 3:56:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: babygene
I think, so long as were not going to cut spending, the tax rates on everybody SHOULD go up. We need to tax at the rate that were spending. Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

well I agree everyone should have skin in the game. However you won't get much going after poor people that don't pay taxes now. It might be the right thing to do but it won't counteract the spending. We should starve the beast and REDUCE taxes. Otherwise there is zero pressure to cut spending.

Also - why worry about the debt? Those young people are voting for Obama in droves. Even my own children. We have attempted to teach many of them and work for the right thing to reduce spending and debt burden on future generations. But no one is listening to us. We are old and will die out. So these young people will have to deal with the mess.

30 posted on 01/01/2013 4:02:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
cal cliff in New Year's limbo: House Republicans are demanding more federal spending cuts

About 84 times more, to be exact.
The current "deal" has 42 times more tax increases than spending cuts. Anyone who thought the "deal" discussions couldn't get any worse...

31 posted on 01/01/2013 4:10:19 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: smoothsailing

It’s NOT about cutting spending! It is only about WHO gets to dole out the $$ to their supporters and in what amounts. That is why The Republicans raised the debt ceiling. This allowed both sides to fund their supporters, with the promise of more to come after the Presidential election.

Where the GOP missed the boat was failing to understand that there are many more middle class and lower class Americans than there are upper middle and upper class working and business voters. By keeping the working class unemployed and on extended benefits while expanding benefits for the poor, Obama jumped beyond traditional party politics based upon party platforms and moved directly to the quid pro quo direct purchase of votes.

The pubbies have been trying to transfer payments through business growth with favors to industry by legislation. Obama cut out the middleman (Congress) and went factory direct. He has taken the giveaway game to a level the GOP cannot match. Too bad the GOP compromised their principles for a congressional seat.

Time for a huge midterm primary effort and then a new party for 2016.


32 posted on 01/01/2013 4:12:38 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...casting doubt on the divided government's ability to prevent widespread tax increases and painful, across-the-board federal spending cuts.

It's always interesting how the skanks and scumbags at the Associated Press describe only "spending cuts" as "painful".

33 posted on 01/01/2013 4:15:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: USCG SimTech
Then cut another $1.2 trillion this year and every successive year just to not add PRINCIPLE to the national debt.

The principle was demolished long ago; it is no longer subject to adding or subtracting.
The principal, on the other hand, keeps increasing...

34 posted on 01/01/2013 4:24:55 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Leadership knows they won’t get a bill passed without conservative support...

Sure they will, with plenty of votes to spare.

I read a Reuters story yesterday that said the bill only needed some "moderate" Republicans to join the rats in the House for passage. The problem Boehner has is that he can't bring a bill to the floor for a vote and let it pass mostly by Democrat votes. That would show the party base that the rats can run roughshod over the GOP with barely a fight. Boehner and the Republicans would look like complete fools, and Boehner would be doomed as Speaker.

35 posted on 01/01/2013 4:26:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TurboZamboni

” Voters tend to blame”

Blame = Credit if people understood what was going on...


36 posted on 01/01/2013 4:31:48 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
I’m retired and part of my income is SS. I would gladly take a 10% cut so long as every government expenditure was also cut by 10%.

Not me. I want every last freaking dime I got coming to me after spending a lifetime working and having half of it confiscated and dumped down the government toilet for rat politicians to buy the votes of their moocher base. That social security check is my casino money.

37 posted on 01/01/2013 4:32:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Billyv
Don't Let THEM Immanentize the Eschaton!!!

38 posted on 01/01/2013 4:41:18 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard

“Not me.”

I understand the sentiment, but if I could pay a couple of hundred a month as my part to fix the system for my kids and grand kids I would be happy to do so....


39 posted on 01/01/2013 4:41:47 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

You would be far better off taking that $200 a month and accumulating gold coins to stash away for your grandchildren. Buy it off grid and tell nobody - - save what you can in a way the scumbag government and the Democrat moochers can’t get their filthy paws on it.


40 posted on 01/01/2013 4:50:09 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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