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Remember - I am the messenger.

Looks like:

- Raise the debt ceiling for a year

- Hints at lowering COLA for SS and pensions

- Vague entitlement "reform" - Payroll tax stays

- Tax raise rise for folks somewhere between $250 and $1 million a year; I would guess in between there

1 posted on 12/17/2012 2:11:48 PM PST by SkyPilot
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On the spending side, the Democrats’ headline concession will be accepting chained-CPI, which is to say, accepting a cut to Social Security benefits. Beyond that, the negotiators will agree to targets for spending cuts.

Also, our perpetual madness to pay people not to work (the Endless Unemployment Check) will continue.

Looks like raising the age for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security is out (it will be "discussed" in the future.....yeah right)

2 posted on 12/17/2012 2:14:30 PM PST by SkyPilot
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lets say all of this goes thru - what does it actually accomplish? NOTHING BUT CASH CONFISCATION


3 posted on 12/17/2012 2:15:58 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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Remember, this the Washington Post Wonkblog, not a news release. However, I believe this info is real.

Looks like a deal will be stuck very soon.

As is always the case, the negotiations could fall apart, or the deal could change. But right now, the participants sound upbeat, surprised at how quickly the process has moved from evident disaster to near-agreement, and fairly comfortable with where they think they’ll end up.

4 posted on 12/17/2012 2:15:58 PM PST by SkyPilot
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I don’t like the body language in that picture. The Won is looking too smug, and Boner is looking beat.


5 posted on 12/17/2012 2:17:04 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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7 posted on 12/17/2012 2:19:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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I’m missing the spending cuts part...or is the concept of lowering COLA’s on SS recipients it?


8 posted on 12/17/2012 2:19:38 PM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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The important thing is that Boner gets to play golf with the pResident so they can have some “alone time” behind the bushes on the back nine.


9 posted on 12/17/2012 2:19:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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Remember - I am the messenger.

No! We understand that Bush isn't available so we hold you to blame!

(I'm resigned to the fact that there ain't gonna be anything but bad news on the "fiscal cliff")

17 posted on 12/17/2012 2:21:32 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Buffet wants the abolisment of the inheritance tax exemption. Why? buffet sells death tax insurance.


24 posted on 12/17/2012 2:29:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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They're going to take our money AND our freedom.

Isn't Obamaland great?
26 posted on 12/17/2012 2:30:08 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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So Obama gets what he wants (taxing the rich more and keeping tax cuts for the middle class) and the Reps take the blame for reducing benefits to old people and future retirees. Such a deal. The Dems will use this in 2014 to get back control of the House. Such a deal.


29 posted on 12/17/2012 2:37:16 PM PST by kabar
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Have we built the border fence yet that the Democrats promised Reagan in exchange for his amnesty for illegals?


32 posted on 12/17/2012 2:47:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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” Hints at lowering COLA for SS and pensions”

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Might as well not pay the cost of living at all. Just received a notice from SS that COLA will go up 1.7%. Big whup! Meanwhile, my Medicare supplement premium is going up 15%.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:48:39 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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But what negotiation has nobama been involved in? What concessions has he agreed to?

NONE!!

Boehner is just caving big time. Completely disgusting!!

35 posted on 12/17/2012 2:54:11 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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Setting the stage for the next act, the end of the 2nd amendment.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 2:54:32 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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What tripe. Just go over the fiscal cliff and save several hundred thousand people in the middle East, and protect the People from an out of control government at home, that cannot hurt people if it hasn’t got the money to do so.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 2:57:33 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/emerging-fiscal-cliff-deal-in-two-words/


40 posted on 12/17/2012 2:59:11 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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The COLA equation needs to be changed; it was artificially inflated in the past for growth in productivity, not prices.


54 posted on 12/17/2012 3:18:04 PM PST by tbw2
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The “cliff” is far better than the deal. You’ve got to know when to walk away from the table, know when to run.


60 posted on 12/17/2012 3:31:18 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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- Raise the debt ceiling for a year

(and a year after that and a year after that....)

- Hints at lowering COLA for SS and pensions

(only a hint, a minor suggestion)

- Vague entitlement “reform” - Payroll tax stays

(maybe, someday, After pigs fly)

- Tax raise rise for folks somewhere between $250 and $1 million a year; I would guess in between there

(doubtful. They will go up on EVERYONE.)

I’ll be the first to say it, there won’t be a deal.


75 posted on 12/17/2012 4:08:03 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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