Posted on 12/08/2012 9:56:47 PM PST by Olog-hai
Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) said no progress has been made with the White House in talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff: across-the-board tax-rate hikes and automatic spending cuts (sequestration) at the beginning of the new year.
“This isn’t a progress report because there’s no progress to report,” Boehner said during a Capitol Hill press conference on Friday. “When it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the White House has wasted another week.” …
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You’ve already caved, idiot. There’s nothing more to talk about.
Pass the tax cuts in two bills both +/-$250K and then move on. Call his bluff to expose his next demand.
Oh, okay. I feel better now that I know he's just playing the media. He did so well defending his party before Election 2012 and playing the media then too.
So someone tonight asked me if I was going to write a column about the fiscal cliff, and I laughed. They looked at me, and I said this.
See, I don’t get why everybody is in such a panic. It’s like they think there is some monumental crisis that has arisen, and they need government to take action to avert it.
But what is this “crisis”? It’s two laws that were passed by this congress, and signed by this president. The first law was an extension of the Bush tax cuts for 2 years, followed by their termination. Tne second law was the debt limit ceiling increase, that included mandatory cuts in spending.
Two years ago, the congress and the president, acting supposedly in the best interest of the country, and surely doing what they thought was the right thing, passed and signed these two things. Now, congress and the President are running around talking about how the world will end if they don’t do something about these laws.
Well, I say it’s about time people saw what congress and the president are up to. Lets just let these laws they passed and signed work their magic. And then, lets point out that Obamacare was also passed by congress and signed by this president, and it is also a disaster. And Dodd/FRank was passed by congress and signed by this president, and it is also a disaster.
Grover Norquist can stuff it. In 2001, he pushed to pass the “Bush Tax Cuts”. He told his “pledge-signers” that they had to vote for this bill, or else. Well, that bill is the bill that makes taxes go up next month. So, if the pledge-holders do nothing, all that happens is a law that Grover Norquist supported does what it was intended to do (two years late, because congress and Obama passed a law extending it — again with Grover’s support).
If Congress tomorrow voted to permanently grant tax cuts to 98% of us, that would be a real tax cut, not a “tax increase on the rich”. It’s the 2001 bill that is increasing taxes on everybody. We can’t go back to 2001 and fix the idiocy of expiring tax cuts. And sadly, we can’t get congress to pass laws that include expiring spending.
No progress IS progress.
Sounds like the beginning a fairly darn good article to me...
No one says you have to feel better. Don't forget Romney's role in 2012.
Two points in response :
1) Back in early 2009 to 2010 I was posting here that you better get rid of Bohner because he was the point man to get votes for TARP, and all that other crap Republicans LOVED under Bush and hated under O. But I was a lone voice here being lectured how that stuff was good under Bush.
2) No one wants Bohners job to be Os bitch. So we are stuck with him. Call up your favorite conservative and ask him to run for Speaker, I bet he wont return your message.
No deal will be made this year. Next year??
You realize, of course, why the Bush tax cuts expired?
A permanent tax cut would've been subjected to a Democrat filibuster in the Senate and never would've arrived on the floor. A temporary tax cut could be passed as a "budget reconciliation" measure by a bare majority -- which is all that the Republicans had at the time (50 Senators + VP Cheney).
Your comments are empty we see your pants are pulled down around your ankles. The faster you give him what you intended to do all along the faster you chums can go golfing. Why don’t you ask Romney to join you since he’s already had lunch with his fraudulence. Nice to see all you guys getting along so well at the expense of the American tax payer. Close the off broadway show boner
Yep. People need to eep the eye on the ball. We need to make it to and over the cliff. Only then will we get a good offer from the senate (which Obama will go along with).
Brilliant stupidity!!!!!
And some American people elected this guy?
Yep. Just waiting to get as close to the holidays as possible before admitting his complete and total caving.
At this point, the best course of action would be to do absolutely nothing. Let the Bush tax cuts expire (all of them). Let SS withholding return to 12.5% (from the current 10.5%). And above all else, let the debt ceiling remain where it is. No more deficits.
Outstanding summation.
The ‘media’ always needs a ‘crisis du jour’ to report on ad nauseum. I’ll just hope for the best..but plan for the worst. It hasn’t failed me yet.
Boehner: I prevented Obama from getting half of his tax hike
Reality: Obama still getting nearly 1 Trillion in tax hikes
Boehner is the Menshevik to Obama’s Bolshevik
Great idea. You get this from Rush?? He has suggested stuff like this many times before. In fact we know exactly how that idea would play out from the FICA tax cut fiasco exactly a year ago Lets walk through it:
1) House Republicans listen to this guy and say ‘ taxes on the middle class will go up unless we get a full extension, for all that income above $250K too. We will not extend them without the others. We dont leave the job producers behind. We won the election.”
2) In January taxes go up (assuming it gets that far)
3) Obama gets on TV and Townhalls telling middle class voters that their taxes are going up because Republicans once again are putting ‘the rich’ ahead of them.
4) MSM hounds Republicans asking them if they are happy they ‘raised taxes’ on the middle class
5) House Republicans get flooded in a tidal wave of angry emails and phone calls from those who voted for them.
They try to go home for a visit and there are angly mobs around their house with signs
“I am sorry I voted for you. You raised my taxes you lying #%%$$”, many are white and 50 + obviously not ACORN.
6) The stock Market tanks
7) House Republicans even the most ‘conservative’ go to Bohner and say “WE made a big mistake. We need to cut those taxes (under$250K income) and put this behind us. My voters want to kill me” just as they did with last years FICA.
8) The House quietly passes the extension in secret just as they did FICA last February.
9) Obama signs it declaring that the Rs finally saw reason
10) The stock market recovers some just because the panic is over sand no one knows that the resulting Obama tax increases hurt the stock market because they think house Rs crashed it and O saved it.
11) Obama gets credit for saving the economy. AGAIN.
12) House Republicans dont challenge O again for the next two years. So the Republican party melts down in civil war. Dems bayonette the R wounded.
13) In 2014 election Reid and Pelosi get back the same numbers they got in 2009.
14) January 2015 Congess passes a bill making Obama King. (no more filibuster to stop it)
Republicans blame voter fraud and the MSM and Rush now says he knew this would happen..
Or does anyone think middle class voters will act any differently than they did a year ago on FICA with that coming tax increase?
Newsmax
Cutting a Deal: Boehner’s No-Win Scenario
Friday, December 7, 2012 08:23 PM
By: David A. Patten
With fewer than 25 days remaining before the fiscal cliff becomes a reality, House Speaker John Boehner is facing rising criticism from those on the right who feel the House GOP leader conceded too much upfront when he proposed $800 billion in new tax revenues, thereby damaging Republican chances of linking any tax hike to long-term cuts in entitlement spending.
Boehner reported “no progress” on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff Friday, after another day passed without the administration even bothering to make a counteroffer to the Speaker’s initial proposal. Administration strategists appear willing to let Boehner and his House caucus sweat, based on their view that the president’s re-election victory, and the imminent expiration at year’s end of the Bush-era tax cuts for all income brackets, give them the upper hand.
Conservatives roundly criticized Boehner’s initial concession of $800 billion in new revenues, and the political backlash within his party continues to build.
On Friday, two maverick Republicans who were booted off key committees for bucking the GOP leadership suggested that they might not support Boehner’s continued role as speaker.
“Well, right now I’m not very happy with the speaker, so let’s see what happens over next several weeks,” Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, who lost his seat on the Budget Committee, told CNN. Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp, who also lost his Budget Committee seat, said Boehner’s purge “just brought home the concerns people had about the GOP establishment leadership.”
Economist Chris Edwards of the CATO think tank joined the growing chorus on the right slamming Boehner Friday.
I personally do not understand why Bonehead Boehner hasn't caved like be did the last negotiation. He should be proud of his ancestor who negotiated on behalf of Gen. George Custer and that turned out so, so well. (Sarc)
The MSN knows he is going to cave, everybody in the DemocRat party (his masters) knows he is going to cave, the elite Establishment Republican wing of the ruling political class knows he is going to cave, the true conservatives know he is going to cave, he needs to get off the pot and get on with the caving in so these poor, poor Congressmen can go home. If I lived in his district in Ohio and he pulls another BOHICA, I'd demand a recall petition be initiated.
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