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Walmart Workers Protest Over Compensation At Oakland Store [Hostess Twinkie Them!]
CBS San Francisco ^ | November 21, 2012

Posted on 11/22/2012 8:08:31 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: agere_contra

Client coming. Got to go. Have a good afternoon thread-mates.


141 posted on 11/22/2012 10:13:50 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: GeronL
and if government got out of the way they'd compete again like they did in the olden days

Some regulations are horrible...Some regulations are good...

Since the gov't got rid of the anti-trust laws, competition is pretty much non existant...The guy with the big bucks just buys up the fresh-start competition...

With some sort of protection for the U.S., people couldn't afford the price fixing of the manufacturers and the gov't would be forced to re-look over the now extinct anti-trust laws, again allowing competition...

142 posted on 11/22/2012 10:15:36 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

ICBI: “Walmart is not meant to be a career.”

Not for some, but I’m sure Wal-Mart has a management path for those who want to make it a career. I had a friend who started as a 7-11 clerk. He only had a high school education, but through hard work, he ended up managing four stores and making more than many of the college educated folks I know. Granted. That’s anecdotal evidence, but I’m told it’s easy to move up in most companies. Show up to work on time, be willing to sacrifice from time to time when your employer asks for extra effort, and try to improve your value by learning new skills. That’s still a recipe for success, even in Wal-Mart.


143 posted on 11/22/2012 10:15:54 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: agere_contra

“A good modern example here is GM. The major US car manufacturer (and union pensions provider!) that was ‘protected’ using the non-tariff remedies of massive, illegal Government debt-forgiveness and contract awards. Has GM cars magically got better thanks to the ‘helping hand of Government’? I think we all know the answer to that.”

GM (and chrysler’s) collapse would have lead to millions-more workers unemployed, with no decent work to absorb them. And the pension fund was federally insured! So letting GM and Chrysler die would have been much more expensive than saving them. And the quality of their vehicles has been improving, though it’s been a long slog.


144 posted on 11/22/2012 10:16:38 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: GeronL

The USA has no VAT. That alone should keep every manufacturer in the USA.


145 posted on 11/22/2012 10:17:23 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Not if total taxation (and regulatory costs) is even higher than the VAT


146 posted on 11/22/2012 10:20:35 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: central_va
That is aiding and abetting the enemy.

One could question just who the “enemy” is. It's sad to see a mindset in Washington that focuses more and more on regulation with absolutely no thought of assisting and aiding business.
One could make a case that U.S. government is the real enemy.
My family moved our business offshore years ago. We saw the negative clouds forming and that was under the Bush administration. The whole concept of the purpose of government has been turned upside down. Good luck. I'm 72 and probably won't be around to see our collapse

147 posted on 11/22/2012 10:21:14 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: usconservative
Go suck some rocks, liar. No one cares how you say you voted, your posts betray you. Now go run along...

Hey, I am a conservative that has to work for someone else for a living...If it wasn't for us, there wouldn't be a Tea Party movement...And I doubt the Republican party would exist either...

And I am not at all interested in seeing my wages drop to minimum wage or become non-existent due to globalism...

148 posted on 11/22/2012 10:24:26 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: freedumb2003

freedumb2003: “Still waiting to see if you know what killed Hostess and how it affects your insular view of the world.”

Let me guess. I’m thinking unions contributed to the demise of Hostess, but there were many causes. Protectionism (sugar) ensured Hostess had to pay much more for it’s key ingredient. I think the customer base has changed, too. People are more interested in healthy foods. It’s probably more difficult to market snacks like Twinkies. However, Hostess also made more than just snack cakes.

Hostess brands:

Baker’s Inn
Beefsteak
Blue Ribbon
Bread du Jour
Butternut Breads
Colombo
Cotton’s
Di Carlo
Dolly Madison
Drake’s
Dutch Hearth
Eddy’s
Good Hearth
Holsom
Home Pride
Hostess
J.J. Nissen
Merita
Millbrook
Nature’s Pride
Parisian
Standish Farms
Sweetheart Bakery
Toscana
Wonder Bread


149 posted on 11/22/2012 10:28:50 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: central_va

Of course it’s aiding and abetting the the enemy, the U.N. and the globalist insiders.

Profits regardless of consequences...It’s why the flooded the U.S. with tens of millions of low wage illegals, then told all, “There is nothing we can do about it”.


150 posted on 11/22/2012 10:36:23 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: teflon9
What some of these folks won't tell ya, is in today's America, there are *more* unionized government employees, than in the private sector.

Unionized millions of government employees, while big biz and corrupt biggov flooded the country with tens of millions of low wage employees...That wasn't enough, so they exported tens hundreds of thousands of jobs to dirt cheap labor land, Communist China, etc...

Profits regardless of consequences.

None of these people care about America, it's independence or it's future. Bigger bottom line is all that matters.

151 posted on 11/22/2012 10:38:46 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: teflon9

teflon9: “Not driven out, but cheerfully abandoned America.”

Do you really think CEOs cheerfully abandoned America? Sure. That must be it. CEOs want to ruin their homeland, the place where they raise their families, just to make a buck. It can’t possibly have anything to do with trying to survive in a competitive world. Maybe we should have laws that prevent companies from moving, and laws that confiscate money when it’s moved overseas, and even more laws that force companies to pay unskilled labor generous wages (enough to raise a family) regardless of the work performed or the employee’s value to the company.


152 posted on 11/22/2012 10:39:19 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If labor was free, or pure robotic, the retail price of a car would only go down 5-7% off the sticker.


153 posted on 11/22/2012 10:42:41 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: winner3000

Wait a minute! When I scrimp and save so I can buy a share of Wal-Mart or Exxon, I want to make money, too. I suppose I’m one of those greedy rich people who owns a few shares of stock. Maybe I should vote for those companies to pay no dividends in the interest of fairness.


154 posted on 11/22/2012 10:44:52 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: freedumb2003
Capitalism?

Ya think the markets are free and not totally manipulated and controlled?

Reboot and update yourself.

Better yet, change your moniker to Pollyanna.

155 posted on 11/22/2012 10:45:45 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CitizenUSA

>>And the Boomers paid into the generous (and largely unearned) entitlement programs that supported the previous generations. <<

Yep. One more reason why the 50’s and 60’s were not all that great.

I have a standing offer with the Government to give me back all I paid into SS and Medicaid with a small ROI (say, 3%). In exchange, I will never ask for a dime nor a single benefit.

Amazingly, no response as of yet.


156 posted on 11/22/2012 10:48:27 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: dragnet2

Corporations love regulations and love unions. These two things give cover for the big outsourcing project which is being done through bribery of Corporate executives and Politicians by various leech govt, like China. It is all a big shame and the “conservatives” gloBULLists can’t see the scam. It isn’t about profits, private sector unions are dead in the USA, regulations keep start ups out, it is about corruption.


157 posted on 11/22/2012 10:51:45 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

WalMart should absolutely pay employees more if it cannot get enough employees and has to offer more to attract workers. Otherwise, no.


158 posted on 11/22/2012 10:56:41 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: central_va; teflon9
Did ya notice while big biz and fatgov exported tens of hundreds of thousands of jobs to places like Communist China with a wink and nod, they were busy importing tens of millions of low wage illegals into the U.S.

No need for proof, just look at America's decimate economic landscape today.

The U.N., super wealthy, the corrupt banksters, Republicans and Democrats are all riding in the same limo.

It's like the masked wrestlers on TV performing their choreographed rehearsed moves, as the audience of fools buy tickets and applaud.

159 posted on 11/22/2012 10:59:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>Ya think the markets are free and not totally manipulated and controlled?

Reboot and update yourself.<<

In the aggregate, the markets operate more freely than not. Yes, they are subject to all kinds of shenanigans and manipulation (look what barney fwank did to the housing market).

But not working in the world economy as a whole is just, well, Pollyanna-ish.

>>change your moniker to Pollyanna.<<

Change yours to the more accurate Karl Marx.


160 posted on 11/22/2012 11:04:55 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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