Posted on 11/18/2012 6:23:08 AM PST by AAABEST
They had some lofty goal of not wanting to "tip off" the terrorists - but nobody can say whose idea it was or who changed the language?
Also, why is the discussion being framed around who "omitted" the terrorist language? Omitting language is not what's at issue. A blatant lie about some "video" was created out of whole cloth and promulgated repeatedly over an extended period of time by the highest levels of the executive branch.
We know that he's already perjured himself at least once on the matter. Nevermind the adultery - it now appears he's morphed into a criminal trying to save his own ass rather than doing what's right for his country.
What other kind is there? The 'I don't remember' kind?
Where do you see me defending him? You seem to have a problem with me saying he did NOT commit perjury.
Great photo comparison. Their demeanors are as different as their uniforms, too.
I don’t think the blatant lie is as much an issue as the lack of intervention during the attack, which is not as much an issue as the lack of security leading up to the attack, which is not as much of an issue as the secret gun-running to terrorists.
Do you really believe that Petraeus testified that the Obama people changed the CIA report to hide the Al Qaeda connection to avoid tipping off the terrorists? I am certain that if Petraeus said anything like that, he said that is what he was told, not that it was true.
Petraeus had zero imput as far as the administration cover story was concerned. He never spoke to Obama. Obama never called him and asked his advice or his opinion. He didn’t need it because Obama was in the situation room on 9/11, watching the events unfold in real time. He knew that it was not a peaceful protest that went bad.
How can that be when the group responsible claimed credibility just hours after it began?
credibility = crdit
didn’t you say a different poster was a liar?
don’t people sometimes say “perjury” to id a lie? How many perjury trials have you actually ever seen or heard about
Committed perjury? When? Where? You better look up the definition of perjury. Petraeus was never sworn in when he briefed Congress. Petraeus was sworn in when he testified on Friday before House and Senate committees. Where is the perjury committed by Petraeus on Friday?
No oath, no perjury.
Yes Ike was a real Army General unlike many U.S. military Generals today that appear to have gone to the local Army surplus store and bought all of the medals off of the racks.
November 16, 2012
A Phony Hero for a Phony War
By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
FASTIDIOUSNESS is never a good sign in a general officer. Though strutting military peacocks go back to Alexander’s time, our first was MacArthur, who seemed at times to care more about how much gold braid decorated the brim of his cap than he did about how many bodies he left on beachheads across the Pacific. Next came Westmoreland, with his starched fatigues in Vietnam. In our time, Gen. David H. Petraeus has set the bar high. Never has so much beribboned finery decorated a general’s uniform since Al Haig passed through the sally ports of West Point on his way to the White House.
“What’s wrong with a general looking good?” you may wonder. I would propose that every moment a general spends on his uniform jacket is a moment he’s not doing his job, which is supposed to be leading soldiers in combat and winning wars — something we, and our generals, stopped doing about the time that MacArthur gold-braided his way around the stalemated Korean War.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/opinion/sunday/a-phony-hero-for-a-phony-war.html?_r=1&;
I’d prefer to let more of the facts become clear before making final judgement. This guy may be being set up and blackmailed by the Obama Chicago Thug Machine.
Thank you for the distinction.
Yes he has NOT been placed under oath thus far. My apologies if I left the impression that he has.
It seems to me that it is the country who is turning on Patraeus. And our entire military.
Oops. Make that narrative “Osama’s dead, GM’s alive.”
Whatever the case may be, the reason we know of his affair and the reason the media is coverning so urgently is becuase this is the result of blackmail from the white house.
You don’t play ball, we ruin your life and career.
That’s it.
Personally, I think the video, or at least the dubbed audio of it, was made by our government specifically for the purpose of blaming it as opposed ot them in case something went wrong, which it did.
These are evil, vile, people. They are the most stupid masterminds of all time, yet they think they are Gods. All they know is the lie.
Lying to Congress while under oath is perjury.
Lying to Congress while not under oath, nevertheless, might well be a crime:
18 U.S.C. § 1001 : US Code - Section 1001
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any
matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly
and willfully -
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or
device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the
same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years
or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as
defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or
both.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial
proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements,
representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or
counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the
legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to -
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a
matter related to the procurement of property or services,
personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a
document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to
the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative
branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the
authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of
the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or
Senate.
Looks like the General was blackmailed by the president to me. Why did his sex partner under the desk visit the White House three times for breakfast? Why was the timing of his resignation so perfect? The Chicago Machine of Barry has orchestrated many events and it looks like their fingerprints all over this one.
When are U.S. citizens going to realize that Obama was bought by Arabs? He was bought and paid for when Arabs paid his living expenses and tuition during college. That is why he bowed to them on his world tour. That is why he is covering up the slaughter in Benghazi. They own him. Obama is a mixed-race slave. Folks, it’s time to wake up and face facts.
Oh, yeah, let’s go after Petraeus. I’m sure he’s the bad guy in this Benghazi fiasco. I mean it has to be Petraeus fault because after all he was dumb enough to have an extramarital affair and that makes him 100 times worse that Obama and his cohorts in the situation room. Right?
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